Well, found out why the new Savage was not shooting, it was Joe with a different pressure on the gun. I shot it and shot some good groups, cast running around 1" at 100.
When we tried my home made lead sled it was much worse, the thing bounces and throws the gun. Those things need bolted down.
The 165 Hornady shot very good with 4350 but Joe hates the recoil, he is skinny.