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Thread: Further testing the Pedersoli 1886 in 45/70

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    Further testing the Pedersoli 1886 in 45/70

    I have just added a Lyman 66 aperature sight to my 1886 and groups have realy improved (Just shows how bad my aged eyes are).

    This 10 shot group benchrested at 100yards with a load of 43.5gns 3031 and a 420gn Hensley & Gibbs boolit mould is showing promise!

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    You still have 3031 ?

    Good shooting for 100 mtrs with open sights. These days I limit my open sights shooting to 50 mtrs - I have difficulty even seeing the target at 100 mtrs.

    When I used to use it, 3031 produced the best groups for me with 47gr behind a similar weight bullet. These days I use 45gr of Rel 7 behind a 415gr HP and it also is very accurate.

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    Yeah! I got 4 of 3031, 4 of 4227 and 1 1/2 of 4895 about 3 years ago at a cleanout sale for $100! Except for one they were all sealed and have proven OK!
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    Excellent grouping and shooter.
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    Mine is the sporting model with 26" barrel and full magazine. I would hate to be using the stalker or borebuster models that are a full 2 lb lighter. Even with starting loads of around 1500fps, it kicks like a mule!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad *** Wallace View Post
    Mine is the sporting model with 26" barrel and full magazine. I would hate to be using the stalker or borebuster models that are a full 2 lb lighter. Even with starting loads of around 1500fps, it kicks like a mule!


    But your Bad *** Nice group. It sucks getting old, I can still shoot, I just can't see.

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    Nice shooting. It's hard to put a good ten shot group together. Nice looking gun too.

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ID:	192090Beautiful rifle Wallace. To truly feel the "mule" you need a crescent butt Nothing like an 1886 in my opinion. I shoot about half black powder and half equivalent smokeless loads. In my younger days I used to speed things up a bit, now I am satisfied with BP velocities. The tang sight has really helped with shooting paper at 100 yards.

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    BAW,
    I have just ordered the Pedersoli 1886 Sporting Rifle (quoted $2800ish) and am looking fwd to developing some loads.
    I am using ADI 2207 in my 45-70's (a Sabatti DR and a Pedersoli Boss Sharps)
    I am using cast bullets but off the shelf not self cast at the moment.
    I am interested in a tang sight but can only find a receiver sight that says it fits the Sporting 1886 at the moment?
    Are you happy with the rifle?

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    Very happy! Deep 'ballard" type rifling tapered depth rifling the same as the Sharps models. Broening & Marlin will not feed the long 500gn boolits through the mag. If you want to PM me your address I will send you a sample of the Hensley & Gibbs 420gn boolits that I use.
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    I've had excellent results with Varget. May try it as well if you haven't.

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    what front sight are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad *** Wallace View Post
    Very happy! Deep 'ballard" type rifling tapered depth rifling the same as the Sharps models. Broening & Marlin will not feed the long 500gn boolits through the mag. If you want to PM me your address I will send you a sample of the Hensley & Gibbs 420gn boolits that I use.
    Very kind of you, PM on the way.

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