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Thread: 38 Special case resizing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    If case mouth wall is thicker than 0.011" consider a .3575" pilot, because if outside turning cut is enough to clean up the full circumference of the case mouth, you will get some relief of residual hoop stress in the case wall. Also depends upon sized outside diameter produced by of your sizing die and state of work hardening if you are not using unfired virgin brass!
    OK, that makes sense. Based on Char-Gar's measurements from post #6, it looks like most commercial 38 Special brass runs .009" - .011". That makes a pretty good argument for your .010" Starline case wall thickness and a .357" pilot for the outside trimmer. Char-Gar reported he had LC brass that was running .014" but that military stuff seemed to be the exception.

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    My mentor, LTC Ellis Lea (USA, Ret.) was former XO of the Army Shooting Team and a contemporary of Joe Benner. He coached the USA shooting team at the 40th World Championships, and later was a firearms instructor with the Office of Public Safety for USAID, which is where I met him. He and Homer Culver figured all this out in the 1960s when trying to obtain uniform results with .38 Super National Match pistols converted to .38 wadcutter. Nothing new here, we have only re-discovered the wheel and learned how to build fire...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    My mentor, LTC Ellis Lea (USA, Ret.) was former XO of the Army Shooting Team and a contemporary of Joe Benner. He coached the USA shooting team at the 40th World Championships, and later was a firearms instructor with the Office of Public Safety for USAID, which is where I met him. He and Homer Culver figured all this out in the 1960s when trying to obtain uniform results with .38 Super National Match pistols converted to .38 wadcutter. Nothing new here, we have only re-discovered the wheel and learned how to build fire...
    Yes, nothing new at all. This is all stuff I have known for well over 50 years. At times, if amazes me how much of what was once common knowledge, now seems like new and/or esoteric stuff. I attribute this to a generation of reloaders and shooters that were suckled on the internet. On the other hand, I learned most of what I know from men who kept the road hot from South Texas to Camp Perry before WWII. Knowledge and experience was passed down from one generation to the next. That is not the case anymore, and much knowledge seems to have evaporated in the digital universe.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check