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    Just finished collecting all the manuals from Lyman on cast boolit handbooks #1 thru 4

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    Here is great resource for out of Print Publications for firearms, gunsmithing reloading ect.
    http://www.cornellpubs.com/index.php

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    Go here
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...online-sources

    go to the "Lyman cast bullet Handbook Link and you'll find a link to several older manuals and data sources (27 to be exact)

    and several other links

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    Better watch those old manuals. For example that first manual for Hornady in 1967 that has only rifle loads. I gave Hornady a call and asked them about some loads in there particularly the 308 loads. I said some of them seem very hot. He says "My God! Throw that manual away, no burn it!" I guessed right when I aske "Powder changed since then, huh?" He said yes that it did very much and many of the top loads are downright dangerous. They may be a good starting point using the beginning loads.

    It's interesting too, to read the little right up on each cartridge. Since much time has passed many of them are really wrong and downright funny. One for example is the 32 Special. Some manuals say that it's in it's obsolescence and won't be around much longer. That was way back then. It's still around. Many of them are funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vzerone View Post
    Better watch those old manuals. For example that first manual for Hornady in 1967 that has only rifle loads. I gave Hornady a call and asked them about some loads in there particularly the 308 loads. I said some of them seem very hot. He says "My God! Throw that manual away, no burn it!" I guessed right when I aske "Powder changed since then, huh?" He said yes that it did very much and many of the top loads are downright dangerous. They may be a good starting point using the beginning loads.

    It's interesting too, to read the little right up on each cartridge. Since much time has passed many of them are really wrong and downright funny. One for example is the 32 Special. Some manuals say that it's in it's obsolescence and won't be around much longer. That was way back then. It's still around. Many of them are funny.
    I really don't think that the old loads are that dangerous, there is not a history of handloaders blowing up guns, using this data.

    I collect old reloading manuals, it a great resource for find data on old cartridges.

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    I have several Ideal manuals that i still refer too, talk about some great reading.
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    Found this Handbook in my references ...
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    Lyman Muzzleloaders Handbook - 1976

    Prices sure have increased: Lyman Plains Rifle - 50cal - DST - Patchbox
    $225, 1976 Price
    Now the Lyman Great Plains - 50cal - No DST or Patchbox - $550 to $625
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    wish you guys would quite sneaking in to my bookcase and taking pictures, I have copys of most everything shown here

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    Nothing Like The Smell Of Old Musty manuals . I use Mine all The Time.
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    Back in the Good Old Days, an enthusiast could occasionally get someone to publish his own specialty loading manual, or do it himself. If he had a store that catered to the shooting sports, he could make up a minor-league version of the Ideal or B&M Handbook.

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    I believe R.F. Wells was the outfit that cast some of Herter's reloading presses. They also offered their own line of reloading equipment.

    And of course, any Hot New Caliber du jour had its audience of enthusiasts.

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    I have a couple of those. Most of the lymans back to the 50s.

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    This is a very cool thread and boy, I never would have believed:

    1. That shooters actually own, collect and read reloading manuals.

    2. That my stuff bought new from the 70's and 80's would make "ME" vintage

    So many shooters look for "recipes" on the web, and that may have its place, but the written word in these manuals have so much more than just powder measure details.

    I'll have to take a pic of mine one day soon.

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    I lost my collection during Katrina but after rebuilding my house I got some new reloading books. I still miss my old ones with all my notes!!
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    That sucks Vinne. But glad your ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdhillbilly1 View Post
    I wanted to ask if anyone has a reloading manual that has any pictures of the Texan Loadmaster Model T - 7 hole Turret Reloading Press.
    Any idea what year, I have quite a few from 1945 on?
    I have these:I have these:
    Lyman 34,36, 41, 42
    Speer #5, 12
    Seirra #3
    P.O Ackley ‘s hand book for shooters and reloaders Vol.1 &11, 1949 spiral bound, and
    Soft cover Vol. 1&11 1966
    Nosler #4
    Alliant #1
    Alliant handout,1995
    Alliant freebe handouts they actually gave you something for free! 1996
    IMR freebe handouts no date.
    Hornady #3
    Hodgdon#25
    Hodgdon freebe handouts 96, 99, 2001
    Speer #12
    Modern Reloading by Lee 1996
    Complete Guide to Handloading, Phillip B. Sharp 1953 3rd revision.
    Accurate #1 handout, 1997, edition 3.5
    The complete Reloading for the 22-250 1990 (load books USA)
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    Here is a site with some pictures:
    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ress-173184887

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