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    To hot to powder coat

    I guess 140 degrees is to hot to dump lead in powder. It ended up one big clump. Everything I've ever seen tells you to put it in the toaster oven for four minutes at 140° so logic tells me that the bullet should be 140 degrees when you dump them into the powder but I guess not. Does anybody know what the ideal temperature is to combine the bullets with the powder
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    And it's ok to put this mess back in the pot and recast right? Is there anyway to remove the pc without remelting?

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    I don't know why folks think the powder would coat better when the bullet is hot. The powder is adhered via static electricity till it's baked on. Guess you learned the heard way. Melt em down and recast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brick196 View Post
    ... Does anybody know what the ideal temperature is to combine the bullets with the powder
    I always use room temperature for mine.
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    Not heat required for smokes powders (and select others) . I think the heat thing is a throw back to jig heads.
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    If it clumped, you were too hot, over 140. Ive found good results at 100-120. Just when the lead feels warm is all you need, room temp in Michigan is 60 and it doesn't seem to work as well as body temp around 100

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    (2)...The Devil's in the Details>>>>>PC Coatings<<<<<

    Just do what the majority does...can't miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OS OK View Post
    (2)...The Devil's in the Details>>>>>PC Coatings<<<<<

    Just do what the majority does...can't miss.
    ^^^this^^^
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    Brick196, I did the same thing but I was closer to 200. Use less boolits at a time first for less combined heat. Second, the coating isn't fully cured so it will come of if soaked in acetone. I tried it. Keep it covered and just let it soak, every once in a while, give it a little shake. For absolutely best results, get a ESPC gun at Harbor freight. I just got one and it's so much better for what I want. Heat does help but it's hard to heat to such a low temp. My oven goes down to 200. I have sprayed from 70 to 200 degrees and anything above 100 seems to work best. I think the heat partially melts the PC and helps the buildup. Obviously, to much heat equals to much build up. Hope it helps.

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    I just shake them at 60-65f where my shop usually stays summer and winter.
    it works just fine.

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    Thanks for the advice guys I'm doing room temp from now on. Jcduff I thought about the spray gun but it's a little more than I want to get into. This was my third batch of pc'ed bullets The first two batches turned out fine I just made a mistake. I won't even be messing with this powder coat but the pan lube is too much of a mess. It wasn't for me being such a cheap *** and wanting to shoot lead bullets out of a glock I won't be messing with it at all.i have a large supply of lead and just hate buying bullets.

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    Hi-Tek. Works great. Inexpensive.
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    I could help you with that too much lead problem..

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    You don't want the coating too thick or uneven so avoid coating hot. Watch the smoke when you melt those! It's nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Laich View Post
    I always use room temperature for mine.
    My garage, in Texas, in the middle of summer is 140 degrees room temperature.
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    Keep in mind 140f on the dial is rarely 140f in the oven.

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    P dont guess I have herd that one yet , room temp, is the way to go
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    Brick196, I understand completely. I'm shooting a 45 colt and buying these gets expensive quick. I bought several hundred of cast off GunBroker and when they arrived, most of the lube was gone. I read about PC and decided to give it a try. I washed the lube off with mineral spirits and acetone. Then, I powder coated in a butter tub without BBs. I was having trouble getting good coverage and heard about heating. I tried that and it worked on the first batch but the second got too hot. The third was still too hot and ended up being thicker than I needed. The heat definitely helps but it has to be at the right temp. When I started spraying, I noticed that I was getting too much over spray so I warmed the boolits up and tried again. I use much less PC by doing this way and have even heated them to 200f prior to spraying without any issues.

    Recasting the glob of PC wasn't an option for me at the time because I didn't have any casting equipment. Santa brought me a Lee 4-20 and a mold so now I can keep the BH fed well. The spray does cost more but it is very uniform which makes it more accurate out of the 1894 Marlin at 100 yards. At 15-20 yards, I couldn't tell a difference between shake & bake and ESPC. I'm really glad someone figured out this PC stuff because I've had terrible luck with tumble lubing. And I hate constantly scrubbing my guns. I hope you get it figured out because PC is the way to go.

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    The BB's are a essential part of the shake and bake method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boolit_Head View Post
    The BB's are a essential part of the shake and bake method.
    Well not always never used them never had any trouble just shake and bake. Now that said the humidity her runs 20% to _3 so makes a difference.��
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