Help identifying a piece of brass

[three50seven]

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, I didn't know where else to put it. I came across this piece of brass while processing some .223 I got from somewhere (don't remember where.) At first I thought it was just a .223 that had been cut down to form .300BLK brass, but then I noticed the headstamp: WCC 53...Six years before the introduction of the .223 Rem. I have a attached some pics of measurements and comparison to a .223 Rem. case. Any ideas?


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[308Jeff]

That's a piece of 30 Carbine.

[psweigle]

its a 30 carbine

[three50seven]

Huh....30 carbine didn't even cross my mind 🙄 guess that was pretty obvious...

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[psweigle]

not really, i just happen to reload a ton of them, one of the biggest pain in the butt rounds to reload.

[racepres]

not really, i just happen to reload a ton of them, one of the biggest pain in the butt rounds to reload.

Ya think???
I use them for 22-30 ... now were talkin PITA...But, I really like that round in my 10" Contender...More better than the 221 FB. IMO

[psweigle]

bet 22-30 really tests the old reloading bench! i lube the cases AND use carbide dies.

[308Jeff]

Really don't like reloading 30 Carbine. But, it's rewarding to see 'em when they're done.

[three50seven]

Really don't like reloading 30 Carbine. But, it's rewarding to see 'em when they're done.

I feel the same about 9mm. I get no joy out of reloading it, but it's better than buying factory.

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[15meter]

not really, i just happen to reload a ton of them, one of the biggest pain in the butt rounds to reload.

Just curious on he guys that say 30 carbine is hard to load, I have loaded a reasonable amount on both single stage and a Dillon 550, jacketed and cast both and not had real problems that I can remember, but it has been a year+ since loading any. Found .204 Ruger way more of a pain.

[308Jeff]

Just curious on he guys that say 30 carbine is hard to load, I have loaded a reasonable amount on both single stage and a Dillon 550, jacketed and cast both and not had real problems that I can remember, but it has been a year+ since loading any. Found .204 Ruger way more of a pain.

Two things for me.

- I hate trimming them. Even on a Giraud it takes a lot of time.
- It takes a lot of work to get them dropping right through a case feeder. Apparently Dillon has a work-through with a space washer under the feeder plate, but Hornady does not. The hopper has to be set EXACTLY right, and even then you get jambs.

[15meter]

Two things for me.

- I hate trimming them. Even on a Giraud it takes a lot of time.
- It takes a lot of work to get them dropping right through a case feeder. Apparently Dillon has a work-through with a space washer under the feeder plate, but Hornady does not. The hopper has to be set EXACTLY right, and even then you get jambs.

Never used a case feeder, trimming IS a pain. I trimmed ~1000 a couple of years ago with a lee trimmer set up in a drill press, yes the fingers got sore until I modified the case holder lock ring with a pin that gave me much more leverage than trying to tighten the case into the holder with just the knurled ring.