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Thread: 250 Savage dies ????

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    250 Savage dies ????

    I have two dies that I amuse are case forming dies.
    I have searched for an answer with no luck. So I am axing the experts.

    RCBS 250 SAV #1 FXT J
    RCBS 250 SAV F&T #2 I

    Could you tell me what these are?

    Thanks

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    Yup, sounds like a case forming set... not sure what the donor case would be though. #1 is the first form and #2 is the file & trim, final form die.

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    Thanks Dan
    The FXT - F&T has me confused also.

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    its File and trim die.
    What do you want for them?
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    In the post WWII era most rimless cases used the .30-06 as the parent case. Readily available, cheap, etc.

    Now there are a lot more choices, .243 or .308 Win are certainly shorter, but they do have a skosh bigger shoulder diameter. The 6mm and 6.5mm Creedmore may be even closer, not to mention just neck expanding the .22-250.

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    Mk42 is correct -
    you have an older rcbs case forming set - 06 to 250 -
    use #1 then #2 then final in a 250 FL sizer -
    the set often includes a neck reamer as the neck thicken when sized down -- some folk use an outside neck turner in a case trimmer --
    there is possibly a 2 digit date on top of die --
    very good dies --

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    A full set of .250 Savage case forming dies has 4 dies and a reamer.
    1. #1 form die
    2. #2 form die
    3. .250 Savage trim die
    4. .250 Savage reamer die
    5. A .250 Savage reamer

    These dies are short enough and large enough for almost all .30-06 based case making.
    If you don't have the reamer and reamer die it is no big deal. Just use a neck turning tool after FL sizing.
    EDG

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    don't really understand the need for 250 case forming dies. 22250 brass is relatively easy to find and easy to neck up.

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    Lloyd, that is true today. But until Remington legitimized the .22-250 in the mid sixties, you either bought factory .250-3000 brass or made it from .30-06.

    Robert

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    if i recall correctly my 22 250 dies from about 1955 are marked 22 varmiter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavogrande View Post
    if i recall correctly my 22 250 dies from about 1955 are marked 22 varmiter
    I believe so, and I think P.O. Ackley coined that name for it. After Big Green "legitimized" the necked-down 250 Savage as the "22-250 (Remington)", the 22-250 appellation kinda became "standard". I suspect the 22-250 was birthed among wildcatters about 30 minutes after the 250 Savage was introduced to the world.

    For several years, I had both 22-250 and 250 Savage rifles on hand here. I advise to run all reformed cases for both calibers through their proper respective F/L sizing dies to avoid chambering disappointments. And unless your 22-250 chamber neck is generous, I recommend reaming or turning case necks after reduction from 25 to 22 caliber. The shoulders differ slightly in angle and placement, so F/L size them and do what suits you after initial fire-forming.
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