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    Cramer No 10 mold.............


    Folks,

    A good friend gave me this mold, once belonged to his father. I've never seen one like this, ever.

    It appears to actually be in good shape, and opens easily. I plan to clean it up and hopefully identify what, exactly it is, and what it is worth.

    With a fine wire brush, the identity is well known. It IS a Cramer No 10 mold.

    HV

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    Looks to be a Cramer. Scroll about half-way down here:
    http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_book_chap...troduction.htm


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    Thank you sir, it is, in fact, a Cramer No 10 mold; appears to be a 358 design.

    I guess, now, I'll have to find out a bit more history on these old molds.

    Any Cramer mold collectors out there?

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    How do you cut the sprue on that?

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    Sprue plate tapped forward from handle to hinge... pic #3 shows sprue plate lifted with blocks separated.

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    the guy's that used them talked about them being suspended from the ceiling by a spring and wire, they would run 2-3 of them at a time.

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    lancem-

    In the first photo, there is a flat-bar that cuts the sprue. If you look close, you can see where someone hammered on the large protrusion for that purpose.

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    I can't imagine using 2-3 of these big boys. This one weighs about 15lbs alone, empty. Now, imagine if a mold of this design was made out of aluminum...........................hmmmmm (scratching head)! Lol!

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    Man, that has to be tiring to use.

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    Bet that turns out a pile of bullets quick

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    Those moulds were often ran on a "balancer" to distribute weight. A simple spring set up or pulley and counter weight at 16 lbs if the mould weighs 15 lbs pulls it up and out of the way then its only a little over a Lbs force to lower and work it. At work on the production lines any air tool or tooling over 3-4 lbs was on a balancer to make things as easy as possible for workers. These were an adjustable coil spring set up ( similar to a hose reel or tape measure) and took almost all the weight off the workers. I have thought about setting one up built into a casting chair for heavy moulds.

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    I believe this is the mold being used around the 13:30 mark in this youtube video. By the way, can anybody identify the other presses used? I believe the lubesizer is a Star but the others....?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDP8BRSEjrA

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    Star's, a lubesizer and press. That kind of arbor press and sizing die I cannot tell. Looks kind of like a standard arbor press and an Ideal sizing die. How easy the cases come out of the die is a mystery. He is picking them out with his fingers, no knockout rod.
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    Be careful with the wire brush.....I've seen some moulds ruined beyond salvage because they were cleaned with a wire brush. If the blocks are aluminum...be extra careful, aluminum is soft and a wire brush will eat it up.
    That's a killer mould for sure , heck of a design , I've never seen one like it.
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    Those old Cramers are gems and a true work of art as far as the mould maker's craft goes. I have a 5 cavity Cramer that was given to me new. Cramer is cut in relief on one side. Beautiful mould./beagle
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    I'd for sure stay away from it with a wire brush. I would soak it in kroil for weeks wrapped in a rag, then wipe it down and put it on a hot plate and get it hot a few times. Most of the rust will probably disappear, if not the most aggressive I would get would be to use 0000 steel wool lightly. Sure don't want to ruin a mold like that.

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    A fella cast with that several times, he'd have an arm like Sir Gregor Clegane from Thrones!
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    Evapo-rust Rust Remover is much better https://www.walmart.com/ip/51245907?...&wl14=&veh=sem than using a wire brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avogunner View Post
    I believe this is the mold being used around the 13:30 mark in this youtube video. By the way, can anybody identify the other presses used? I believe the lubesizer is a Star but the others....?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDP8BRSEjrA
    Amazing group of people! Hats off to C0mpiling this file, very nice!!!!

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