What is your preferred way to harden a frizzen face?
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What is your preferred way to harden a frizzen face?
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I use Kasenit, but I don't think you can buy it anymore.
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I use Kasenit too. I have two cans- one just a few years old, the other one around 50 years old and came out of my grandfather's shop. The old can is the good stuff with cyanide in it. I save it for really special projects.
The key to long life with Kasenit is to keep it tightly sealed.
Amazon has Cherry Red. I would love to be able to find real Kasenit.Originally Posted by rancher1913
Last edited by M-Tecs; 02-28-2017 at 02:06 PM.
Has anyone used the leather wrap method and how well does it work?
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Not case hardening but there's the option of soldering in a thin piece of good high carbon steel to the face like a thin file and smoothing it out . There was a post a few months ago on here I believe a member did that .
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What color is that good stuff that came from your grandfathers shop? I have some that was my dad's that is white in color. The original can was no longer usable so I put it in a sealable plastic container,wish I had the instructions that were on the original can. This stuff is old anyone have the instructions for use. I have used it for hardening frizzens and it seems to work, but not sure I did it properly.
I have a friend who uses the leather method. He started when he could not get Kasenite or Cherry Red anymore. He swears by the leather method now.
I use powdered food grade bone meal. Works like kasenite. Heat frizzen to red heat and bury in bone
meal till it quits smoking. Bring to a red heat again, then quench. You might have to do a second
time if not hard enough.
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Back when I started shooting muzzleloaders, some 40+ years ago, some of the "old guys" at that time would line the frizzen faces of their rifles with a feeler gauge. I remember they got a huge shower of sparks.
The old Dixie Gun Works catalogues used to have a piece about hardening a frizzen by putting it in a tin can and smashing the end closed then throwing it in a fire for a while, fish it out and quench the whole thing. I think I'm remembering that correctly. Maybe similar to leather wrapping the frizzen?
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using cherry red ...
fwiw, MBS has cherry red for $10 (about half to a third the price of other online vendors).
http://www.muzzleloaderbuilderssuppl...HERRYRED&xm=on
using cherry red ...
Thanks for the link.
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Will be ordering some on Monday. Thanksfwiw, MBS has cherry red for $10 (about half to a third the price of other online vendors).
http://www.muzzleloaderbuilderssuppl...HERRYRED&xm=on
Grey. If it turned white that means it's oxidized. At least that's what an old welder told me.
Not sure but I think any carbon added at a I call it cherry color or hotter will get into metal. I think old black smiths used straw??
Guys half-sole frizzens by annealing a thin saw blade; cutting/shaping a piece to fit the frizzen; heating and quenching the new piece; soldering it to the frizzen. The idea is that the new half-sole gets drawn down by the soldering so is not excessively hard. I think 44mag described this in a thread months or a year ago.
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