Remington M722 Extractor

[fourarmed]

Thanks Beagle and Ray. Sounds as if the 7400/7600 unit is thicker (or wider) than the one for the 700. I sent off an order for 3 of them yesterday.

[beagle]

Rayo...I appreciate that tip. Worth it to give it a try. Thanks./beagle

[fourarmed]

I got the 7400 extractors from Gun Parts, and compared them to the original ones I have stashed. The 7400s are definitely going to take some mods. They are much thicker than the originals, and shorter as well. One thing this makes me wonder about is modifying the bolt to fit the extractor rather than the other way around. I have been told by at least one gunsmith that there is not enough metal in the 721 bolt to take the later model extractors. I wonder now if that is true. Measurements to follow.

[fourarmed]

Here's what the mike shows: the 721 extractors are about .016" thick and encompass at least 3/4s of the circumference of the bolt face. The 7400 extractors are a good .010" thicker, and apparently don't go more than halfway around the boltface. The 7400 units have a bend at the ends that forms lugs that could fit into a recess to prevent them from moving circumferentially.

Beagle, can you check the similar measurements on that non-riveted 700 extractor?

[beagle]

I'll try and pull that extractor in a day or so. Kind of laid up right now.

That sounds about right from the M700 extractor that I tried which according to Brownells fits the 7400 also.

It was definitely not as big in diameter and had the end tabs.

Now, I kind of wonder if that made any difference. Guess I need to order another one up and take a look at it with thoughts toward modification rather than getting pissed because it didn't drop right in.

I guess the position of the extractor doesn't make too much difference as long as it extracts all right.

The problem is that dinky little piece is so thin, you can't do much with it in the way of adding on. Maybe some TIG welding.

Talk about "throwaway" rifles. When the extractor goes bad, you trash it./beagle

[joeb33050]

I've been watching this because
I paid for a M721 Remington in 30/06 almost a month ago, still haven't received it, and you guys have me worried about the extractor. Has anybody come up with a fix?
I found on the web that there's a recall of 721's for trigger work, it seems to be free. Anybody know anything about that?
Maybe it doesn't matter if the seller never sends the rifle to my FFL guy.
joe b.

[fourarmed]

As long as they work, they are just as good as any other, but they are a bit lighter than the later extractors. The triggers are essentially the same as a 700 trigger. I have a 300H&H 721 that the trigger started acting up on. The trigger lever wouldn't return freely, causing the firing pin not to cock sometimes. I pulled it out and took it apart and found a burr. I can't remember now whether it was on the trigger itself or on the housing around the trigger pin hole. Either way, a couple of file strokes cleared it right up. It's now one of the best Remington triggers I have. Just one of the costs of using stampings.

[beagle]

Okay...think I found a fix.

The M700/7400/7600 extractors from Brownell's seem to be able to be made to work.

The M722s are really thin. The replacenets are thick. I have one modified and in and it's chambering and extracting but shooting will be the test and I'll try that Sunday with the Roberts.

The key seems to be the extractor portion. On the replacement parts, it's too thick and had to be ground down so the case will fit. Otherwise it sticks out too far and won't let the extractor snap over the case.

Right now, mine chambers with some difficulty but I figure it will work in over time so I left it that way.

I'll make a report after seeing how the firing does but it dry fires/chambers all right and extracts in the shop./beagle

[Willbird]

Well most of us seem to be so tight with a nickle that we squeek, so if your Dad is like that too, just buy some surplus powder that is a tad slow for the 222, something on the order of H414, then lie and tell him you got it for free, give it to him, then he can't get enough in there to hurt hisself because it is "free" powder he and most of the rest of us would use it in preferance to other powders even if it caused extreme jock itch and or hives



Bill

[fourarmed]

Beagle, which side did you grind? The back (out) side, or the tooth itself?

[beagle]

I ground the side with the tooth. I figured the backside needed to remain flat so that it would provide support (Now that I think of it, it could be done either way with a good argument for each method). I ground it on a bevel so that the rim would tend to slide down over the tooth. It still closes a bit hard but I think it will wear in over time.

The dimensions vertically are basically the same as the original. The material on the whole thing is much thicker than the original. The arms are shorter by maybe 1/8" than the original and have a slight bend at each end which I straightened. Once you get it in place, it pretty well tends to stay centered. I was worried about that but it can only move so far one way or the other and then the arms ar blocked by the ejector. Either way, it will extract and that's the goal of this effort. I may have problems with ejection but I'm not all that worried about that right now.

I have 40 rounds of Roberts loaded and Sunday will tell the tale whether it works or not but eveything looks pretty good right now./beagle

Beagle, which side did you grind? The back (out) side, or the tooth itself?

[fourarmed]

Inquiring minds want to know...how did it work?

[beagle]

The reworked extractor worked about 75% of the time. Really frustrating.

Came home and boxed the bolt up and shipped it out to Dennis Olson in Plains, MT for a Sako extractor.

The bolt just came back. That is the slickest mod ive seen and pulles a case reliably now.

I highly recommend this mod to any of you who were having the same troubles that I was. Don't fool with it like I did. Get er' done./beagle

[joeb33050]

Would you post the address etc. of Dennis Olson, and give us an idea of the cost of the extractor?
Thanks;
joe b.

[waksupi]

I can't find Olsen's phone number right off, but he is in Plains, Montana.

[Jumptrap]

I can't find Olsen's phone number right off, but he is in Plains, Montana.

I just wanted to ad, that i had Olsen rebarrel one of my model 95 Winchester's to 35 Whelen. Absolutely top drawer work...flawless. The blue matches so perfectly, it looks like factory original, gun is slick as greased snot. But as for phone calls.....he has the phone personality of a stump. Questions get answers like: yeah. okay. yep. sure. no. etc. Don't expect a gab fest or long explanations. Were it me and I wanted something done, just mail the damn thing to him, wait....wait some more and then pay the bill....you'll appreciate the work and enjoy the results.

[felix]

For someone to make Jump THIS happy, the man must be a magician. It's OLSEN in PLAINS, MONTANA. ... felix

[HTRN]

A former boss, the guy I actually apprenticed under, once tried to fix a friends 721 with this problem. Tried 3 different 700 extractors and never got it to work right. He got fed up and simply installed one of those Sako style extractors instead. Works much better than the original.

Boys, if you don't mind it not being original, this is the way to go.


HTRN

[waksupi]

But he has a good, if dry, sense of humor. I had a job in there a year or so ago, and he gave me a pickup date. It's about 60 miles down there, and when I showed up he gave me a funny look. Then he said, I'll bet you're here for your rifle. I sez yup. He then asks if I've been out to look at the bighorns on the winter range. I told him I was headed out there later, to visit friends who lived there. He then asked if I had had lunch yet. I told him no, I'd ate just before I left home. Then he asks if I had been to the new junk shop in town.
I came back from the junk shop an hour later, and he was just finishing wiping down the rifle. He said he had forgot one item on the job, and had to get me out of the shop, so he could finish it. It was done flawlessly, and for a decent price for the quality work you get. A good gunsmith is worth every cent he charges.
If you want a fine custom rifle, he can sure build you one. He builds some very elegant mountain rifles.