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    What if I added copper powder to my powder coat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maliveline View Post
    What if I added copper powder to my powder coat?
    I think probably a waste of time and money.

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    Ya I was thinking the same thing later in the day after I posted this I guess I’m going to try to dick around with plating
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    Quote Originally Posted by mto7464 View Post
    I have a 300 BO that I have been casting the 230 lee and powder coating it to bring it up to proper size. Still not real happy with it but its the only boolit I can powder coat and get a good OAL that will function in the ar platform. THe problem is with the suppressor I am getting lead in the suppressor, none at all in the bore. I can take my can apart, (form 1 titanium can) and clean it but lead is stubborn. Has anyone fired cast using a can, subsonics, and not having any leading issues? What mold are you using, powder coating, lube, hitek, or not, etc etc.
    I had the same problem 'way back when the USAF issued me a High Standard 22 w/muzzle brake. What happens is that the rifling smears itty bitty tails on the bullets, and the tails get blown off as the bullet exits the bbl, to be deposited in the brake. Same situation in your case, I bet...
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    first thing to do is to shoot some of your bullets into water and see if the coating is holding up. I recovered a bunch of pc bullets out of the snow bank this spring. Some done with smokes black and some with his brown. Some bullet designs looked like they were gas cut with bare lead showing. Much more prevalent with the brown then the black. None leaded the barrel but id about bet theyd lead up a can eventually. He has a new brown pc color that is suppose to be the toughest color he has. I bought some and will try it but it will be a while (thank God) before theres snow to shoot into again. Your problem might be cured with just a switch to a different powder.
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    So best to use JB or plated with a can? Inquiring minds need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbarry1 View Post
    So best to use JB or plated with a can? Inquiring minds need to know.
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    So best to use JB or plated with a can? Inquiring minds need to know.
    Nope powder coated cast with no issues.
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    Interesting thread as I'm waiting on a couple form 4's...

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    I've put a lot of lead through cans. I switched to PC because it's so much cleaner than running lubed lead. Since switching my cleaning interval went from every 200-300 rounds to every few thousand. That's mostly pistol calibers through sub-guns, but includes a fair bit of subsonic and supersonic rifle as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbarry1 View Post
    So best to use JB or plated with a can? Inquiring minds need to know.
    Personally, I use plated bullets ONLY through the cans. 147 gr 9mm and 95 gr 380's, and 230gr 45's. Never had a problem since I started doing that.
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    Apparently I’m not the only one with this question. I’m planning on just use it lubed boolits, it’s just too easy to live them with a star, I figure with a dab of super glue the gas checks aren’t going anywhere. Subscribed to this thread and when I get my can in a few months hopefully I can add more to the convo.

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    The can on my 300 blackout has seen at least 5K rounds, all of them cast and lubed. I specifically bought a serviceable can for this very reason, and I have cleaned a good bit of lead out of it. I just recently started using the Hi-Tek coating and am looking forward to seeing if it makes a difference in keeping my can clean.

    FWIW most of my bullets have been checked and Iíve never found one inside the can.
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    I’ve done some reading over at silencertalk. It seems that guys over there are having the same issues with hi-tek coating in a can as with powdercoating. Plated bullets work but plating your own bullets sucks in my opinion. I’m tossing around the idea adding copper powder to my powder coating or possibly even HBN. If I ever get around to it I will post the results here. If anyone else has solved this problem I would like to know about it. Also I heard someone talking about JB kind of curious bout what this is.

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    I'm over there and not having any issues with powder coated and my can. Few over there cast their own, they are usually buying them. Maybe Dellet and Rebel are casting and a handful of others. I'm about to try some hytek in my can when I can get a chance to get my sizer opened up some.
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    Oh I had powder coated bullets going through my can no problem but once I cleaned it a little and started inspecting the blast baffle I could see a decent amount of lead build up after less than 150 rounds. You know it’s just a little lead and it probably doesn’t matter but I’m real up tight and I don’t want that **** in my can. Not too mention if you let it build up in there long enough it could start to effect performance.

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    Well I was able to finally add some copper powder to my powder coat.
    It turned out pretty blotchy and to be honest I had a pretty hard time getting the powder coat to stick to the bullet. I’m not sure if this will really even help but oh well it was only like 20 bucks for the copper powder

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    I'm not quite sure what you're hoping to accomplish by adding copper to the PC.

    I've put a lot of PC'd bullets through cans, and while there is still some residue, I've never had an issue with heavy buildup.
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    I don’t know man I was getting quite a bit of leading with plain powder coat in my suppressor. Most people I have read about trying this were having the same issues and most people are running plated bullets through their suppressors to keep things working correctly.
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    I have an AR-9 with two uppers- one 16" and one 8.5". Both have the Yankee Hill flash hider for my Wraith can.


    Even shooting without the suppressor, using Hi-tek coated bullets, the flash hider would get reside but the barrel was clean. I attributed this to the rifling cutting through the coating, then the gasses "blasting the particulates" onto the hider.


    I switched to Smoke's PC and it went away. I've shot probably 500-1,000 rounds through it and it doesn't look excessively dirty.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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