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  • * I follow PC Mfgr's directions for temp. & time.

    169 40.05%
  • * I pre-heat the oven

    293 69.43%
  • * I don't preheat the oven

    96 22.75%
  • * I bake longer than recommended time

    91 21.56%
  • * I bake shorter than recommended time

    26 6.16%
  • * I use higher temp. than recommended

    29 6.87%
  • * I use lower temp. than recommended

    23 5.45%
  • * I have verified my oven's temperature w/separate thermometer

    245 58.06%
  • * I use a PID Controller on my oven

    29 6.87%
  • * I use a convection oven

    171 40.52%
  • * I use a toaster oven

    230 54.50%
  • * I use a full size kitchen oven

    34 8.06%
  • * I use a recommended #5 tub

    260 61.61%
  • * I don't use #5 tub but I use a tub

    48 11.37%
  • * I ESPC with the casts on a jig

    25 5.92%
  • * I ESPC w/out a jig

    30 7.11%
  • * I put them in a container, place it in the vibratory cleaner bowl...let it shake them

    22 5.21%
  • * I put them in a rock polisher type drum and coat them

    6 1.42%
  • * I shake them less than a minute

    175 41.47%
  • * I shake them more than a minute

    153 36.26%
  • * I slurry coat

    4 0.95%
  • * I use recommended Black air-soft BB's

    183 43.36%
  • * I use any color BB's

    67 15.88%
  • * I don't use BB's

    112 26.54%
  • * I stand casts individually to bake

    256 60.66%
  • * I use a jig and bake

    26 6.16%
  • * I dump and bake

    94 22.27%
  • * I shake/tap off excess PC

    251 59.48%
  • * I don't shake/tap off excess PC

    38 9.00%
  • * I bake on non-stick Aluminum foil

    161 38.15%
  • * I bake on Parchment

    101 23.93%
  • * I bake on silicone mat

    83 19.67%
  • * I dump and bake on wire or mat and oven cool

    11 2.61%
  • * I dump and bake on wire or mat and air cool

    62 14.69%
  • * I dump and bake on wire or mat and water drop

    38 9.00%
  • * I stand or jig and bake and oven cool

    22 5.21%
  • * I stand or jig and bake and air cool

    120 28.44%
  • * I stand or jig and bake and water drop

    35 8.29%
  • * I use Harbor Freight PC

    157 37.20%
  • * I don't use Harbor Freight PC

    98 23.22%
  • * I use Smokes PC

    182 43.13%
  • * I use Powder by the Pound PC

    48 11.37%
  • * I use Eastwood PC

    73 17.30%
  • * I use Prismatic PC

    25 5.92%
  • * I use Sherman Williams PC

    6 1.42%
  • * I use ___________________PC (give a name of your brand in comments below)

    25 5.92%
  • * I use hi-tec or other than PC coating

    25 5.92%
  • * I get good coverage in hi-humidity

    86 20.38%
  • * I don't coat in high-humidity

    63 14.93%
  • * I get good coverage only in low-humidity

    37 8.77%
  • * I get good coverage rain or shine makes no difference

    164 38.86%
  • * I am satisfied with my coating results

    324 76.78%
  • * I am not satisfied with my coating results

    44 10.43%
  • * I want perfect looking coatings

    140 33.18%
  • * I don't care about perfect, I want quantity

    102 24.17%
  • * I put more effort into coating high velocity casts than lo-vel pistol casts

    51 12.09%
  • * I treat them all the same...hi or lo velocity

    147 34.83%
  • * I PC only the drive bands of my cast

    3 0.71%
  • * I gas check before I PC

    68 16.11%
  • * I gas check after I PC

    105 24.88%
  • * I leave the base of the cast bare of PC

    38 9.00%
  • * I coat the base of my casts with PC

    191 45.26%
  • * I have trouble with the PC flashing, making a skirt at the base

    23 5.45%
  • * I PC as it is my only option

    31 7.35%
  • * I PC as choice over a Lube-sizer

    150 35.55%
  • * I still do both

    102 24.17%
  • * I lube size or tumble or pan lube, to heck with this PC business...gerrrrr!

    7 1.66%
  • * I cast, size, PC and size again before loading

    74 17.54%
  • * I cast, PC and size before loading

    290 68.72%
  • * I cast, size and PC before loading

    15 3.55%
  • * I cast, PC and don't size before loading

    25 5.92%
  • * I nose size also

    18 4.27%
  • * After PC I wait some time before sizing

    73 17.30%
  • * After PC and-/or not- sizing, I wait some time before loading

    59 13.98%
  • * To heck with waiting for anything...I load them immediately or whenever I'm ready to use them

    131 31.04%
  • * I do a smash test for every batch

    54 12.80%
  • * My method has already passed the smash test long before and now, I don't bother

    172 40.76%
  • * I smash test only if I think something is wrong

    103 24.41%
  • * I never smash test

    64 15.17%
  • * I am satisfied with the accuracy of pistol casts and PC

    262 62.09%
  • * I am not satisfied with the accuracy of pistol casts and PC

    6 1.42%
  • * I am satisfied with the accuracy of rifle casts with PC

    110 26.07%
  • * I am not satisfied with the accuracy of rifle casts with PC

    19 4.50%
  • * I am not decided yet about accuracy

    89 21.09%
  • * Most of my problems are attributed to the quality of the PC powder I use

    37 8.77%
  • * Most of my problems are attributed to my oven temp. control

    23 5.45%
  • * Most of my problems are attributed to unclean casts

    15 3.55%
  • * I use nitrite gloves to handle my PC'd casts

    106 25.12%
  • * I use tweezers or some other tool to handle my PC'd casts

    228 54.03%
  • * I wear a respirator when I do PC coatings

    34 8.06%
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Thread: (2)...The Devil's in the Details>>>>>PC Coatings<<<<<

  1. #21
    Boolit Grand Master

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    There's a list in the stickies for anybody who encounters any abbreviations or acronyms that hang them up.

    Of course you never have to use them, but you will see them on this forum and if you want to look them up.... there they are.


    Here's a link to make it even easier to find.
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...oolit-Coatings
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    Got it bookmarked already...have had to use it many times...thank you Beagle.

    Abbreviations - Acronyms - As Used on This Forum I use this one too.
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    Code talkers all part of the Kool Kid Club
    Reloading to save money I am sure the saving is going to start soon

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    I answered what I could.
    Living in Europe, I use a local PC product. As I am not completely happy with the results, I am thinking about getting the new staff from Randy, but it is not simple to get it over here without anoying complications.
    Believe it or not, so far I have failed to locate a single #5 tub here!!! I will have to test the recently suggested PVC pipe method.
    Having no Lube-sizer, beside PC I also tumble-lube (45-45-10). I have a supply of WLL too, but find pan-lubing slow.
    I handload i.e. cast / PC for handguns only.
    Shoot

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    I feel for you guys over there. We have our dry spells for powder and the like, now they're trying to dry up our Pb....now you have trouble getting something as simple as PC...
    I'll bet if it were made in a Muslim country...You'd be over-run with it!
    Hang in there...at least we have a new Sheriff in town trying to restore 'common sense'...it's getting better.
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    I for one have a espc rig. That i I hardely use anyome.

    I do a fourtunecookie45lc method.

    With smokes powder.

    So i do a bake it in a pile method . then resize. The look and shoot great.



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    My procedure is similar to what DerekP listed.
    Ziplok bowl with screw-on lid.
    Powder and black airsoft bb's from Smoke4320.
    Swirl and shake the bowl with cast boolits for about 2 minutes.
    Using forceps or large tweezers, pick up each boolit, tap off excess powder. Place on baking tray with parchment paper.
    Bake in toaster oven @400F for 15 to 20 minutes.
    I'm only doing a few dozen at a time, mostly just rifle boolits to feed the 30-30 and 45-70. If I were coating pistol rounds, this would be too slow a process.

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    Spoiler: we are all living dangerously

    * I wear a respirator when I do PC coatings 5. 6.94%

    Except 5 of us.

    I highly doubt this stuff is safe to breath. However I'm not donning my respirator just yet either. I probably will grab it when it's too late and am simply trying to slow down or halt progression of whatever this brings me.

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    I use a respirator when I spray but have shaked more than I've sprayed.
    Oh great, another thread that makes me spend money.

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    Interesting how some of the commons are alike.
    For some like me, I spay and tumble, so answered both ways. I think the end result will be the same tho.
    Thanks for putting the poll together

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    Outstanding work on this poll.

    I've yet to start PC'ing, but it's great to see the results so far.

    Very educational, and thank you.

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    Thanks for the kind comments fellas...I've read so many accounts of what everyone does and all of them different in some little way or another that I thought a comprehensive questionnaire might sort things out a bit...at least we can tell what the majority is doing and whether it is satisfactory...
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    Some very insightful things from the poll. Looks like I'm following what most do, but some things others do more. Nice info to know. TY for making this poll.

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    I am not so much concerned with doing a large quantity at one time. I may do two batches of a hundred at one time. So the ES is more time consuming for the quantity I do. And besides my small air comp. in the polebarn took a permanent vacation.
    THATS JUST MY WAY Kevin

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    So far I've only done a few batches but I am happy with the results so far.
    I preheat my boolits at 140 for 4 minutes, then dump them into a #5 container with some unknown brand of white powder coat that I was given, shake for about a minute or until coated, dump into a mesh tray, shake off excess, spread around sort of, then cook at 400 for 20 minutes. When done I dump them into a bucket of water and have not had any stick together. Size, gas check, then load. I have fired 30 of them at full house loads in a .308 so far with no leading. Haven't got the load dialed in yet but it's been encouraging.

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    that was very interesting. love all the info on this site....... but has anyone noticed if the powder sticks better on older bullets.... that have oxidized a little as opposed to fresh cast bullets? i think i have found it to be true but am still new to the PC coating ..... thanks

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    44...The 'does it stick good?' question has been tested thus far by hammering a PC'd cast flat. If the paint stays with the lead we've been calling her 'good'.
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    I don't get it. I've tried every method anyone has mentioned except the spray gun and the HF red powder will not stick to the bullets. I get such poor coverage I don't bother to cook them.


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    Good poll OS OK ,I like looking at the graph to see where I sit . I'm PC'n right now.

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    Stop using the HF red. None of the HF powders work very good. Some guys get decent results with the HF Black. Other colors will work decent if you spray them. Get a sample pack from Smokes and you will be amazed how well it works. Then, once you are getting good results you can fine tune your process.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check