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  • * I follow PC Mfgr's directions for temp. & time.

    110 39.43%
  • * I pre-heat the oven

    192 68.82%
  • * I don't preheat the oven

    65 23.30%
  • * I bake longer than recommended time

    53 19.00%
  • * I bake shorter than recommended time

    20 7.17%
  • * I use higher temp. than recommended

    11 3.94%
  • * I use lower temp. than recommended

    17 6.09%
  • * I have verified my oven's temperature w/separate thermometer

    158 56.63%
  • * I use a PID Controller on my oven

    19 6.81%
  • * I use a convection oven

    110 39.43%
  • * I use a toaster oven

    154 55.20%
  • * I use a full size kitchen oven

    25 8.96%
  • * I use a recommended #5 tub

    168 60.22%
  • * I don't use #5 tub but I use a tub

    32 11.47%
  • * I ESPC with the casts on a jig

    22 7.89%
  • * I ESPC w/out a jig

    23 8.24%
  • * I put them in a container, place it in the vibratory cleaner bowl...let it shake them

    14 5.02%
  • * I put them in a rock polisher type drum and coat them

    4 1.43%
  • * I shake them less than a minute

    123 44.09%
  • * I shake them more than a minute

    88 31.54%
  • * I slurry coat

    1 0.36%
  • * I use recommended Black air-soft BB's

    124 44.44%
  • * I use any color BB's

    49 17.56%
  • * I don't use BB's

    64 22.94%
  • * I stand casts individually to bake

    164 58.78%
  • * I use a jig and bake

    18 6.45%
  • * I dump and bake

    65 23.30%
  • * I shake/tap off excess PC

    166 59.50%
  • * I don't shake/tap off excess PC

    24 8.60%
  • * I bake on non-stick Aluminum foil

    119 42.65%
  • * I bake on Parchment

    65 23.30%
  • * I bake on silicone mat

    40 14.34%
  • * I dump and bake on wire or mat and oven cool

    7 2.51%
  • * I dump and bake on wire or mat and air cool

    42 15.05%
  • * I dump and bake on wire or mat and water drop

    22 7.89%
  • * I stand or jig and bake and oven cool

    15 5.38%
  • * I stand or jig and bake and air cool

    83 29.75%
  • * I stand or jig and bake and water drop

    21 7.53%
  • * I use Harbor Freight PC

    122 43.73%
  • * I don't use Harbor Freight PC

    60 21.51%
  • * I use Smokes PC

    120 43.01%
  • * I use Powder by the Pound PC

    35 12.54%
  • * I use Eastwood PC

    31 11.11%
  • * I use Prismatic PC

    19 6.81%
  • * I use Sherman Williams PC

    1 0.36%
  • * I use ___________________PC (give a name of your brand in comments below)

    16 5.73%
  • * I use hi-tec or other than PC coating

    17 6.09%
  • * I get good coverage in hi-humidity

    56 20.07%
  • * I don't coat in high-humidity

    37 13.26%
  • * I get good coverage only in low-humidity

    21 7.53%
  • * I get good coverage rain or shine makes no difference

    117 41.94%
  • * I am satisfied with my coating results

    217 77.78%
  • * I am not satisfied with my coating results

    29 10.39%
  • * I want perfect looking coatings

    84 30.11%
  • * I don't care about perfect, I want quantity

    73 26.16%
  • * I put more effort into coating high velocity casts than lo-vel pistol casts

    32 11.47%
  • * I treat them all the same...hi or lo velocity

    98 35.13%
  • * I PC only the drive bands of my cast

    2 0.72%
  • * I gas check before I PC

    49 17.56%
  • * I gas check after I PC

    67 24.01%
  • * I leave the base of the cast bare of PC

    32 11.47%
  • * I coat the base of my casts with PC

    130 46.59%
  • * I have trouble with the PC flashing, making a skirt at the base

    16 5.73%
  • * I PC as it is my only option

    16 5.73%
  • * I PC as choice over a Lube-sizer

    113 40.50%
  • * I still do both

    66 23.66%
  • * I lube size or tumble or pan lube, to heck with this PC business...gerrrrr!

    5 1.79%
  • * I cast, size, PC and size again before loading

    50 17.92%
  • * I cast, PC and size before loading

    190 68.10%
  • * I cast, size and PC before loading

    11 3.94%
  • * I cast, PC and don't size before loading

    19 6.81%
  • * I nose size also

    13 4.66%
  • * After PC I wait some time before sizing

    51 18.28%
  • * After PC and-/or not- sizing, I wait some time before loading

    46 16.49%
  • * To heck with waiting for anything...I load them immediately or whenever I'm ready to use them

    86 30.82%
  • * I do a smash test for every batch

    33 11.83%
  • * My method has already passed the smash test long before and now, I don't bother

    116 41.58%
  • * I smash test only if I think something is wrong

    74 26.52%
  • * I never smash test

    48 17.20%
  • * I am satisfied with the accuracy of pistol casts and PC

    181 64.87%
  • * I am not satisfied with the accuracy of pistol casts and PC

    6 2.15%
  • * I am satisfied with the accuracy of rifle casts with PC

    71 25.45%
  • * I am not satisfied with the accuracy of rifle casts with PC

    16 5.73%
  • * I am not decided yet about accuracy

    54 19.35%
  • * Most of my problems are attributed to the quality of the PC powder I use

    23 8.24%
  • * Most of my problems are attributed to my oven temp. control

    15 5.38%
  • * Most of my problems are attributed to unclean casts

    7 2.51%
  • * I use nitrite gloves to handle my PC'd casts

    63 22.58%
  • * I use tweezers or some other tool to handle my PC'd casts

    156 55.91%
  • * I wear a respirator when I do PC coatings

    22 7.89%
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Thread: (2)...The Devil's in the Details>>>>>PC Coatings<<<<<

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    ...The Devil's in the Details>>>>>PC Coatings<<<<<

    * The following questions are about how we do the PC coating on our casts...methodologies and details of our processes and success.
    These questions pertain to your current method...NOT what you have tried in the past.

    Thank you for your effort and time to fill in this poll/questionnaire...I believe there is a mountain of information we can glean from analyzing everyone's answers...at least I hope so.


    ***If a question doesn't apply to your experience or methods...don't answer it...leave it blank.***

    ACRONYMS a PROBLEM ? . . . try this . . . This may help...still some are missing though...

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?107406-Abbreviations-Acronyms-As-Used-on-This-Forum
    Last edited by OS OK; 11-28-2017 at 02:28 PM.
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    just, "watch your 6" .

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    erm you forgot the poll this time!

    *My* current method

    #5 ziploc bowl
    ASBBDT
    Smokes powder
    nitrile gloves to remove from powder and stand up on tray
    non-stick foil
    oven preheated (cheap toaster oven, non-convection model)
    oven PID controlled @ 400f
    air cooled
    My feedback page if you feel inclined to add:
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...raight-Shooter

    Thanks Yall!

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    he is still working on it.
    I think Charlie got some decaf this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runfiverun View Post
    he is still working on it.
    I think Charlie got some decaf this morning.
    It's fun to poke the bear though .
    My feedback page if you feel inclined to add:
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...raight-Shooter

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    Ha..la ti dah! Gotterdone...hehehe
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    2018 is going to be a 'Jaw-Dropping Year' . . . 'The Year', the World was born to live . . .
    just, "watch your 6" .

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    I was wondering how the percentages would reflect a meaningful number...now I (think?) I see.

    Of all the pollers (those responded) each line reflects what percentage does a particular item the same way verses the total number polled. I think that makes sense...right?

    If so this oughta be pretty revealing after a couple dozen replies.
    a m e r i c a n p r a v d a

    Be a Patriot . . . expose their lies!

    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” G. Orwell

    2018 is going to be a 'Jaw-Dropping Year' . . . 'The Year', the World was born to live . . .
    just, "watch your 6" .

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    Quote Originally Posted by OS OK View Post
    I was wondering how the percentages would reflect a meaningful number...now I (think?) I see.

    Of all the pollers (those responded) each line reflects what percentage does a particular item the same way verses the total number polled. I think that makes sense...right?

    If so this oughta be pretty revealing after a couple dozen replies.
    My thinking is it will show those that have had success with PC, typically follow the same general guidelines. We may differ on a few points but over all the method is the same.
    My feedback page if you feel inclined to add:
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    Thanks Yall!

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    I don't know if it'll point the clear path to glory for everybody. I think I make shootable boolits, but there is a limited number of folks using the nut-tray and ESPC method.
    Tumbling seems to be the clear choice for most, but I just can't get results every time, so I stick to the spray gun.
    KE4GWE - - - - - - Colt 1860, it just feels right.

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    There's been so many conversations about how to do this business that the newb's get confused...I don't think they are aware that there so many options built into a simple little thing like PC'ing. There are several avenues to get there with lots of variety in between.

    I kinda like the results already.

    At least a newb can determine pretty easy what most tend to do for success...if they can just get some success they will figure it out as they go further...like the rest of us for the most part.
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    2018 is going to be a 'Jaw-Dropping Year' . . . 'The Year', the World was born to live . . .
    just, "watch your 6" .

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    for perfect coverage I only tumble coat under a full moon...

    after midnight....
    facing North...
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    Ahhh...I get it, moonlight over the left shoulder..but, dontcha have to hold your mouth right?
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    2018 is going to be a 'Jaw-Dropping Year' . . . 'The Year', the World was born to live . . .
    just, "watch your 6" .

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    As far as powder brands, Prismatic or Rosey's.
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    Currently casting for .223, .308, .30-06, .30-40 Krag, 9mm, .38/.357, 10mm, 44 Mag and 45 ACP.

    I like strange looking boolits!

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    if nothing else the numbers will give a new guy more [pointed] questions to ask.

    I can see some data points mirror much of the discussion already.
    and it will be nice to see how things change in a year or two compared to what is showing up now.

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    Interesting thing is no mention of the spray method. I built a vacuum box and get perfect results without much effort or any mess. I've tried shake and bake and had pretty good results but at least for me the finish Isn't quite at the same quality as the spray method gives. On a average evening I can easly put the finish on 1200+ boolits.
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    Just want to jump in here: The very old Saying was "GOD was in the details" Sometime 20 /30 years ago Some idiot changed that to devil ( Probably a democrat) Just a FYI
    " Associate with men of good quality, if you esteem your own reputation: for it is better to be alone than in bad company. " George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWFilips View Post
    Just want to jump in here: The very old Saying was "GOD was in the details" Sometime 20 /30 years ago Some idiot changed that to devil ( Probably a democrat) Just a FYI
    These are different idioms for different uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepyj View Post
    Interesting thing is no mention of the spray method. I built a vacuum box and get perfect results without much effort or any mess. I've tried shake and bake and had pretty good results but at least for me the finish Isn't quite at the same quality as the spray method gives. On a average evening I can easly put the finish on 1200+ boolits.
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    It is listed near the top...'I ESPC with jig or no jig', two entries...you had me there for a minute. All this work and forget the sprayers, you scared me.
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    Actually, I've found the results so far to be interesting. I see areas where I might try something a little different and see if my results are better/worse. Generally, I seem to be doing the same as the majority, but in a few areas, I don't. I may have to give those areas more consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OS OK View Post
    It is listed near the top...'I ESPC with jig or no jig', two entries...you had me there for a minute. All this work and forget the sprayers, you scared me.
    Oops sorry I didn't realize ESPC equaled electrostatic powder coat. I better get up to speed on my acronyms. Nice job on your comprehensive list.
    Sometimes it takes a second box of boolits to clear my head.
    Feed back thread http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...?261449-jeepyj

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepyj View Post
    Oops sorry I didn't realize ESPC equaled electrostatic powder coat. I better get up to speed on my acronyms. Nice job on your comprehensive list.
    Thanks, it took some thought and I prolly lost some more grey matter for the cause! I hate ACRONYMS!
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    2018 is going to be a 'Jaw-Dropping Year' . . . 'The Year', the World was born to live . . .
    just, "watch your 6" .

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