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    8x57

    I'm a 45 guy I like my 45s. But I shot my 8X57 for the first time today and I'm getting set to maybe have a new favorite. I can't comment on the accuracy of my rifle yet but all else seems like I have a new favorite. My cast rifle has been a 700 Remington 300 whisper but this Mauser I've got it shoots just close to the 300 and I might dump the 300. So I guess the 45s will still dominate my pistols but my go to gun is looking to change.

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    If you really like 45 you could stay 45 with that mauser they make some conversions. They look pretty cool, but I think some have feed issues.
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    The only one I have is the LEE 175 RN. Sweet shooting round. 19 gr, 4227 gives just under 1600 and accurate. I need to bump it a little so it will configure better with the mauser sights.

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    The 8x57 is one of the world's best cartridges and the Grandaddy of many. You'll like it. It was my only big game rifle as a young man and from prairie dogs to elk it gets it done. With hand loads of course. Best, Thomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    The 8x57 is one of the world's best cartridges and the Grandaddy of many. You'll like it. It was my only big game rifle as a young man and from prairie dogs to elk it gets it done. With hand loads of course. Best, Thomas.
    Agreed.It is my second of the top chamberings for cast bullets.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
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    Yes one of my favorites also! I think it is under rated by many, I took an 1100 pound bison with cast, DRT. Yesterday I was shooting my Turk mauser, love those guns.
    Hell, I was there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waksupi View Post
    Agreed.It is my second of the top chamberings for cast bullets.
    Drumroll please! And your first choice? Beast, Thomas.

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    Not my prettiest rifle, but it rides with me daily in the tractor cab. My buddy who owned a pawn shop got a call from one of his distributors asking if he could use some Turk mausers with slightly cracked stocks for $25 , delivered !! I think we ordered a dozen. Ammo was $99 for 1400 rds delivered.Should have ordered a truck load but we thought the surplus bargains would last forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swheeler View Post
    Yes one of my favorites also! I think it is under rated by many, I took an 1100 pound bison with cast, DRT. Yesterday I was shooting my Turk mauser, love those guns.

    I got my Turkish Mauser out of the back of the Safe last Friday. Thoughts were to do some barrel measurements before casting. Local club has a shoot each month where Rifle has to be 1950 or earlier manufacture & iron sights. As shooting is at 100 yards off hand, thought that realllllly long barrel could be an advantage. Thanks for spurring the process with your comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waksupi View Post
    Agreed.It is my second of the top chamberings for cast bullets.
    What's first?? .30 cal?? Bigger??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiloh View Post
    What's first?? .30 cal?? Bigger??

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    Quote Originally Posted by swheeler View Post
    Everybody knows OL Waksupi is a 358 Win NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT!
    I knew he was smart. I knew it.

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    I used the group buy boolit, but I am betting 21.5 grains of 4759 (or therebouts) and the Lee boolit (.325) may provide some entertainment possibilities.

    Gonna work on some 10B101 loads here shortly also.
    Last edited by TCLouis; 02-17-2017 at 10:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSTANG View Post
    I got my Turkish Mauser out of the back of the Safe last Friday. Thoughts were to do some barrel measurements before casting. Local club has a shoot each month where Rifle has to be 1950 or earlier manufacture & iron sights. As shooting is at 100 yards off hand, thought that realllllly long barrel could be an advantage. Thanks for spurring the process with your comments.

    Are you going to the Sunday shoots at Columbia Falls? I'm there, too! Next Sunday starts at noon. I was at the sporting rifle match on the 22nd.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
    John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"

    Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!


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    Quote Originally Posted by swheeler View Post
    Everybody knows OL Waksupi is a 358 Win NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT!
    Thar ya go!
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
    John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"

    Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!


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    My M48 is really accurate with jacketed, theres always to many other things I need to buy an 8mm mold for it. I know better than to mess with a Lee mold, so its $80, plus a sizer and expander to go with it. But would imagine it would shoot cast just as good as jacketed.

    Not so sure about buying up a big stockpile of the at the time cheap Turkish surplus. Even not using it mine is slowly dwindling. The poor quality brass splits sitting in a can. I have to go thru them here and there to sort out the bad ones. I save the powder and bullet to load in good brass.

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    I got one of the Yugo Mausers from Classic last year and bought several boxes of Privi ammo to go with it, only to find out that the ammo will not feed out of the magazine. It's round nosed bullet stuff.

    Anyone got a suggestion for a mold guaranteed to feed from the mag?

    I have an ancient Ideal single-cavity spitzer-type boolit mold that seems to shoot good but one-at-a-time casting just ain't my style if ya know whut I mean?

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    As started, mine is the LEE 175 gr. RN. less than $20 plush shipping. Cheap and it shoots very well.
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/710...dius-gas-check
    Well, mine was less than $20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiloh View Post
    As started, mine is the LEE 175 gr. RN. less than $20 plush shipping. Cheap and it shoots very well.
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/710...dius-gas-check
    Well, mine was less than $20

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    Same mold here and I powder coat, then put some 4198 behind it. Initial read is good accuracy and absent the harsher recoil of factory ammo a real enjoyable rifle to plink with. Bit more powder and I would think an excellent hunting round. Don't get me wrong I really like NOE molds but the Lee stubby bore ride 175 grain is a very nice bullet with the mold available for small amount of cash. Doubt you will wear mold out anytime soon feeding a bolt action rifle. I damaged my mold and liked it enough to replace it.
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    Every time waksupi or some others start talking 358, I think I have a real need for one . . .

    THEN

    I remember the 8X57 in the safe and realize I have something almost as good, maybe even better.

    It does not get shot enough, so there certainly is no need for a 358.

    The old 175 grain GB boolit pushed down the barrel by 21.5 grains of 4759 does quite well.
    Last edited by TCLouis; 02-12-2017 at 12:26 AM.
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