.455 Webley Bullet Mold

[sailcaptain]

I am trying find any information regarding a supplier of a Webley .455 caliber - 265 grain - single or double bullet mold.
I read of one here on this site before but can't seem to find any further reference to it.
I have both Webley and Enfield MK VI .455 pistols that I currently shoot Fiocchi ammunition when supplies are available. Neither has had the cylinders altered to allow other ammunition to be fired.
I have over 300 cases now that I would like to reload and cast my own bullets for.
Thanks for any assistance you can give.

[Outpost75]

Accurate molds has several designs of solid-based, long ogival flatnosed, as well as wadcutters suitable for the .455, which can be made to order with 3-week's delivery in custom diameter to fit your cylinder. I would in particular look at 45-240H1, 45-245D, and 45-262H. Heavier ones are also available. Start on p.12 of his online catalogue.

In my MkVI I load 3.5 grains of Bullseye to approximate service velocity. The lighter 240-262 grain bullets are loaded in Hornady Mk.2 brass. Heavier 272-290 grain bullets can be loaded safely with the same charge in the longer 0.87 .455 Mk1 brass available from Reed's Custom Ammo.

My Mark VI had chamber throats which varied all over the map from .449" to .453" all in the same cylinder! I had DougGuy hone the cylinder throats to make them all uniform size and to mostly remove old tool marks and pitting. When done all six chambers would smoothly accept a .455" gage pin and none would accept a .4555" pin. Accuracy was MUCH improved, even with my "old" handloads assembled with bullets sized to .452 I had prepared in trying to get the original cylinder with pitted throats to shoot. It does even better now with unsized bullets which fit the hones cylinder as-cast.

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[fred2892]

The last group buy for a webley hollow base 265 gn mould was by Mihec. He may still have some in stock, worth sending an email.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/arch.../t-315491.html



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[kiwi]

I have the Mihec .455 a most excellent mould highly recommend it, I supply a lot of Webley shooters with boolits all feedback is that they are the best boolits
they have used and easily out shoot factory ammo

[sailcaptain]

Got my Webley mold Today !
I order the mold from Mihec Molds. I have to say Miha was excellent to do business with, answered all my questions and with a week it arrived. Comparing it to my other molds, it really is a quality piece. I've included some pictures for others to see for themselves.

[MiHec]

I still have some 2 or 4 cav molds. You can choose .455 or .457 as cast.
Send me PM if you want one

[Cheshire Dave]

I'm sure MiHec molds are much better but for my S&W model 2 HE in .455 I used a Lee 255gr. with a large flat nose " Beagle'd" out to cast .456 dia and lubed using my .458 die for my 45-70. Shoots to point of aim and as well as I can see the sights. Can hit clay pigeons regularly at 25 yards. If you were to use this load for self defense that big flat nose would hit hard. Fun load to shoot. I use Starline 45 Scoville brass cut back to .99. My gun has 1.000 chambers and I made them to fit it. The slow part was chucking the cases in my drill press and filing off the rims to fit my gun. 100 cases should last me a lifetime as much as I shoot the old girl. She is 101 years old after all. That being said I am saving for a MiHec mold.

[Old Iron Sights]

I'd like to chime in if I may. Just received a mark VI this past week that's shaved for 45 acp. The bore slugs to 455 but the cylinder mouths mic about 447. Unless I have the cylinder honed as stated above, can I just let the cylinder swage the boolit?

[Outpost75]

I'd like to chime in if I may. Just received a mark VI this past week that's shaved for 45 acp. The bore slugs to 455 but the cylinder mouths mic about 447. Unless I have the cylinder honed as stated above, can I just let the cylinder swage the boolit?

I would not recommend this unless you use the hollowbased MiHec bullet cast very soft, and used only with light loads.

Forcing oversized bullets into tight cylinder throats increases chamber pressure dangerously, PARTICULARLY when bullets are full metal jacketed or cast hard! Safe results require SOFT lead bullets not exceeding 10 BHN, sized to fit the cylinder throats.

Loads developed in stronger Colt and S&W .455 revolvers using larger bullet diameters and producing velocities over 700 fps should NOT be fired in any Webley revolvers!

Limit revolver velocity of 265-270-grain bullets to 600 fps by using 3.0-3.5 grains of Bullseye or 4.0-4.5 grains of Unique. You can determine safe charges with other powders in “shaved” .45 ACP Webleys or unaltered .455 revolvers using the 0.88” length .455 Colt cases by adhering to the “start” load charges listed for .45 ACP using #452374 in the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook, 4th Edition (2010) on p.278, which do not exceed 13,000 cup. Reduce these charges by 10% either for heavier bullets or for use in shorter 0.76” Mk II cases, unless you are able to measure velocity of your revolver over a chronograph.

With soft hollow-based lead bullets using black powder, this allows the bullet to swage down passing through the chamber throat, getting the most energy from a small powder charge, and the hollow base expands up again as the bullet passes through the barrel forcing cone to engage the rifling. Firing hard-cast or jacketed bullets larger than cylinder throat diameter, such as the M1911 .45 ACP service bullet, combined with fast-burning powders such as Bullseye, can spike chamber pressure dangerously and should be avoided!

[17nut]

There is the RCBS mould you know.

Attachment 200236

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...se-hollow-base

[Old Iron Sights]

I like the idea of getting the cylinder throats the correct size. Gives a lot more options and makes it safer down the road. I also have a 1917 S&W 45 that I could load for as well.

[Old Iron Sights]

OBW, I'm not finding a DougGuy on the forum. Is he still active or is there someone else that can hone my cylinder?

[Nueces]

OBW, I'm not finding a DougGuy on the forum. Is he still active or is there someone else that can hone my cylinder?

Search under 'user name', dougguy.

[Outpost75]

OBW, I'm not finding a DougGuy on the forum. Is he still active or is there someone else that can hone my cylinder?

Also on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/Cylinderhone-756429174391912/

Here is what my cylinder looked like before and after:

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[jerry6stl]

We have had decent results in my friends .455 Webley using LEE bullet mold 456-220-1R . It was designed for the Ruger Old Army muzzle loading revolver, but also works with the .455 Webley. Shoots 4" to 6" groups at 25 yards. It won't win any NRA bullseye matches, but is fine for plinking. I suppose you could use it for self defense, but relying on a century-old, war-surplus, top-break handgun, doesn't seem wise. Most of us own newer, better handguns for defensive use.

[Old Iron Sights]

I ended up getting an RCBS 45-250-FN mold that was on clearance at Midway. It casts right at 454. I also got the throats reamed to .4545. I started with some loads at 3.8 Bullseye but they didn't really seal the cases. 4.2 gr is running 677 fps and is shooting a tight group at that velocity. Of the last six I shot, 4 were right at 677 and grouped tight. One load was below and one load higher and they spread out. Maybe my casting isn't consistent.
Sized to 452, this boolit is pretty wicked in my 1917 45.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/624669