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Thread: Luck of the draw!! 32 Winchester Special

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    Luck of the draw!! 32 Winchester Special

    Hi all,
    You could have knocked me over with a feather on this one. We had the drawing to distribute my dad's firearms on Christmas Eve day. I ended up with my grandfather's (on my dad's side) Winchester Model 94 in 32 Winchester Special. It has a, I believe, marble's tang sight, and the canvas case. It's appears to be in great shape. I drooled over that rifle since I was a kid (I'm sixty now). It's serial number is in the 1310xxxx range. I have a few boxes of empty brass along with 3 boxes of factory ammunition. I bought the RCBS 170g FP bullet mold, a .323 sizer, and gas checks.
    I'll give the barrel a good scrubbing and slug it just for information sake. Is there anything else I need to tip the scales in my favor in a cast boolet load. I have IMR 4895, 4064, H335, red dot, unique powders on hand.

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    I slugged the barrel and it measured 0.321 0.3215

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    Wish me luck.

    Terryfromok
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    Good luck and what a score. Those are great cast bullet shooters.

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    Congratulations. I think the 4895 and 4064 will work for your cast though I have never used them in this caliber. Reloader 7 and Reloader 15 are superior propellants for full house loads in the .30-30/.32 Spl.
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    Wow! What a great way for you to remember you Grandfather and Father.

    Your serial number makes it a Pre-War Winchester, but not by much. Without doing any research, I'd guess the late 1930s.

    I also have a 32 Special, but in the rifle version of the Model 94s action: the Model 64. Mine was made just after yours.

    It's a great cast bullet calibre and it's 1 in 16" rifling twist lends itself very well to cast bullets.

    Let's see a photo when you get a chance.
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    That will be a life time treasure to enjoy and pass on ! My first center fire was a 32 win Special. What a sweet caliber !
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    your 4895 should do well.
    I'm using a bit too much 4198 in mine it doesn't need to go that fast.

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    The 32 Special is one of my favorite calibers.Most of mine shoot cast bullets very well with full power loads.Any of the powders you listed should work well.You might try the Ranch Dog mold as it shoots better in my guns than the RCBS mold.I'm sure you will enjoy that rifle.

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    I use a Lyman 323470 Round Nose 165gr gas-checked Loverin mold for my 32 Win Spl Model 94. With IMR 4895 - 32gr gets me 2100fps. Take a couple of grains off and start from there.
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    Great draw! I've found good loads using W748, IMR4064, A2460 and H380 for higher velocities, also IMR3031 and H4198. For low velocity cast loads 700x, W231 and HP-38 do good. I cast an Ideal 321427 (~135 grains) and a Lee 324-175 and they both do great. If you decide to try anything jacketed try the Hornady FTX-- the pointed bullet with a plastic tip to allow use in a magazine. They're pricey but shoot nice.
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    Bitter sweet I'm sure, and a great way to keep those memories alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terryfromok View Post

    I ended up with my grandfather's (on my dad's side) Winchester Model 94 in 32 Winchester Special serial number is in the 1310xxxx range.

    Good luck - You have one of the last 1,000 (or less) Model 94's made immediately before WWII. (regular production stopped for WWII somewhere in the SN 1,310,000 range)

    FWIW, Winchester still made some Model 94's during WWII, but for the US military & some private guard organizations (state police, prison guards, etc, etc) only, before resuming regular Model 94 production at the end of WWII in the SN 3,350,000 = My bad, typo - I should have typed SN 1,350,000 range.


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    It's a very good cast bullet hunting cartridge. Easy to get good results from. Mine is a 1949 vintage Marlin pawn shop rescue. Took some work, but looks decent and shoots well now. I use the old Ideal 321232 for plinking and a NOE 180 grain flat nose for hunting, both shoot well. Your RCBS bullet ought to be just as good.

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    Pietro, check your typing. I think you meant to type 1,350,000. To my knowledge, there are no gaps in the Model 94 Serial Numbers.
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    Shot my first deer (a 7 point buck) with a Win 94 from 1949 ambered to .32 Win Special when I was 12 years old. Now at age 65 I own four of them. Another Win 94 from 1968 and two Marlin 336SC's, from 1951 and 1957. All my .32 Specials have ballard rifling and absolutely love my cast bullet loads ranging in velocity from 1650 fps to 2325 fps with the 180 grain bullets from my RCBS 08-170 and my Ranch Dog C323-170. I love a slow walk in the woods with any of my .32 Specials knowing that any task at hand can be done with no muss or fuss with my cast boolet loads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rintinglen View Post
    Pietro, check your typing. I think you meant to type 1,350,000. To my knowledge, there are no gaps in the Model 94 Serial Numbers.

    Thanks, it was a typo.... (doh).

    Apologies................
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    Have a '52 refurb'd '94 in 32 WS. Not loaded for it yet, but have the RCBS 32-170 mold as well. I expect the same basic loads/powders I am using for my 30-30 to work (or at least be a great starting point) for the 32. RL-7 and BL-C(2). Would also look at H-335 and IMR 4064.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro View Post
    Good luck - You have one of the last 1,000 (or less) Model 94's made immediately before WWII. (regular production stopped for WWII somewhere in the SN 1,310,000 range)

    FWIW, Winchester still made some Model 94's during WWII, but for the US military & some private guard organizations (state police, prison guards, etc, etc) only, before resuming regular Model 94 production at the end of WWII in the SN 3,350,000 range.


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    This is the gap referred to - you're showing TWO MILLION and forty thousand in these years.
    40,000 is the correct figure for these years, meaning no significant gap in the numbering, although there may be a gap in the data.
    Serial number 3.35 million would be late 60's or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNruss

    40,000 is the correct figure for these years,

    It was a typo - apologies................

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    I often suffer the same malady Pietro. I just call it my dyslexic typing.

    Thanks for the update on those pre and post serial numbers.
    Keep your powder dry,

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    Nice rifle with great family history; congrats!

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