picture of the ancient Slippery 9 group buy
old thread links:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...7-Slippery-9mm
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ted-Round-Nose
picture of the ancient Slippery 9 group buy
old thread links:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...7-Slippery-9mm
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ted-Round-Nose
Last edited by Johnny_Cyclone; 11-10-2016 at 10:34 PM.
Will they make a gas check version?
That's a cool looking little bullet.
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Mihec could make that, and I believe an 8 cavity is possible for him.
That boolit weighs about 136 grains and feeds well - you could also get Accurate and NOE to make it.
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I remember that discussion and buy. Wish I had participated in the buy, the design looks like a very good one.
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No dimensions... dang.
ok.. so if it was .358 in diameter at the bands maybe we can scale off of this drawing... Humm
Does anyone have a print?
I'm interested!
Shoot from a rest at 25/50/100 yards, then post your groupings. That is the only way to compare accuracy results.
I can see myself buying a mold that makes those.
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I think this was 45 2.1 design. I can ask him....
It is a 45 2.1 design so if you have a way to contact him then that's great
If he has that print. You might see if he has a GC version also, seems to be the growing trend.
I have original drawing. Yes, it is 45 2.1 design.
If we go bevel / flat base I need one cherry. Additional cherry is needed for GC version.
Mmmm I'm torn between this design and the 147gr mold that MiHec just ran. I like the way this design is, but want something I can go subsonic in for suppressor fun.
Decisions decisions.
Seems if we were to short plunge the Bevel Base cherry to create a Pain Base/Flat Base we lose some base thickness and weight.
Curious as to how it might look I played around a bit and weighed the boolit lubed, unlubed, and I also filed off the bevel base to get an idea of weight change.
If we go with a Bevel Base cherry and short plunge to have the Plain Base then that's about +/- what it would look like.
Unless Mihec can plunge the Cherry then remove the Bevel base for a thicker Plain Base.
If I were to go with a Plain Base I'd want keep the length of the original bullet by just squaring up the Bevel portion rather than short plunge.
Now if there were a Gas Check base in place of the Bevel Base area.. yummy,.. but that's just me.. lol
The Bevel Base version is a nice boolit
As for the original design criteria:
The line in bold above is most important. You can get way with quite a bit less flare with this boolit than many others. Keep that neck tension high, less working the brass, etc.MakeMineA10mm -
"...For the base, I asked 45 2.1 to design a medium-length, gently-tapered bevel base, something similar to the bevel base off of Lyman bullet 356637. Why?
I believe nowadays a majority of people load auto-pistol rounds on progressive presses, because they like the high volume / high speed of loading. I have run across not a little frustration with loading small-cases (like 9mm) in these presses, because I’ve had to hold the bullet in alignment with the case as the round goes up into the seating die, or if I didn’t, the vibrations of the progressive press often causes the bullet to tip over. This results in either slowing me down (because I stop to correct it), or, if I don’t notice it, banging the bullet ogive or even front driving band against the bottom of the seater die messing up more than time... A great fix for this is to use minimal bell-mouthing (approx. .002-.003”), along with a long, gently-tapered bevel base on the bullet. Combining these two allows one to set the bullet into the case rather easily (since both the bullet base and the bell-mouth are working together for guidance), get the fingers clear, yet not have to worry about machine vibrations jiggling the bullet to the point that it tips over too far. (This also speeds loading, as your left hand can go for another bullet, instead of holding the bullet and case in alignment until they enter the seating die....)
I'm in as long as it doesn't defer from the original spec weight (giving a little leeway+/- for base options), nose, or lube groove. Otherwise it's not the Slippery 9.
Last edited by Johnny_Cyclone; 11-16-2016 at 09:34 PM. Reason: added a missing letter
I have one of the original molds and if this happens, I sure would like to get a lyman/RCBS top punch for it. I might even go for a GC design so I can drive it faster in my 9mm AR or 358 MGP carbine.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |