Same here. Nothing but a plug of sticky bullet lube for me. Pointed straight up with Bullseye and that sticky plug they fireform every time. I just save all the goobers from the lube sizers in a tuna can and melt to the thickness I want for the case I'm doing. Charge the case, hold it straight up and hold the tuna can in the left hand and poke the neck into the layer of lube. Works slick.