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Thread: New Henry Single Shots

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    I am excited about this gun because it is one of the few that fit into my budget. For you guys out there who know about 45/70's...I am hoping that my next gun is a 45/70. I was going to try and find a H&R Buffalo Classic BUT, If Henry makes a similar gun I will get one. I want to shoot paper patched both black powder and smokeless. I also want to experiment with powder coating the mighty slugs. I am a bit confused about the break barrel action strength. Will the H&R's handle fairly hot loads with smokeless powder? What about twist rate? Is there an optimum twist rate that will shoot slow and faster bullets both accurately? I plan on putting a peep sight on it. May hunt white tail in Wisconsin, but primarily for shooting paper. How important is the longer barrel for accuracy? I really hope that Henry makes an equivalent to the Buffalo Classic. I love single shot rifles. Might get one in 22 WMR also. Maybe a 22 Hornet.

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    I want one in 45-70. That's a good looking rifle. I'm looking forward to handling one. Best, Thomas.

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    That .44 mag would make a nice rifle for Michigan's limited rifle zone.


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    If I need to launch 300+ grain slugs I already have a .45-70. For my purposes 1:38 should do just fine.

    Must resist the urge to start shopping for dies and molds...
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.

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    The 45-70 is a very versatile round. I have an old buffalo classic which is my favorite. I put a Redfield peep and Lyman hood on it. I can load up or down to suit. From poppers to bruisers, it does it all.

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    Yes, it is. I'm hoping I can find a suitable substitute for SR4759 as my 1895 absolutely loves the stuff.
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.

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    Call me crazy but I would rechamber the .44 mag to 44-40 just because I'm fond of it. But if it's 7 plus pounds I would choose 45-70.

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    WOW!! 30-30 and 35-30
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    Do you mean, .35-30 is going to be a factory chambering for this rifle? Sweet!
    Currently casting and loading: .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Special, 9X19, .357 Magnum, .257 Roberts, 6.5 Creedmoor, .30 WCF, .308 WCF, .45-70.

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    I hifhly doubt it, but I would buy it if it was even at 600$

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    The new products are on their website now.

    https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    The new products are on their website now.

    https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/
    For that price, I would rather see it as a rolling block. That's overpriced for a break action.

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    Oh, I'd love a 22lr but that 223 looks like a fine substitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyVet1959 View Post
    For that price, I would rather see it as a rolling block. That's overpriced for a break action.
    The real world price will be probably close to $350 which seems to be around the price for what is left of the factory new H&R Handi Rifles on Gunbroker. The Henry rifle looks much nicer to me. Henry makes a pretty nice product.

    Where can you get a rolling block rifle for the same price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    The real world price will be probably close to $350 which seems to be around the price for what is left of the factory new H&R Handi Rifles on Gunbroker. The Henry rifle looks much nicer to me. Henry makes a pretty nice product.

    Where can you get a rolling block rifle for the same price?
    If you look at how simple the rolling block action is, there's no reason why it couldn't be sold for $350.





    The original 1877 Rolling Block listed for $16-17.

    http://gunsmagazine.com/the-remingto...rolling-block/

    Adjusting for inflation, that's $359.43-381.90.

    http://www.westegg.com/inflation

    With modern machinery and less need for skilled machinists for making the parts, I suspect that they could be sold for less than that today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyVet1959 View Post
    If you look at how simple the rolling block action is, there's no reason why it couldn't be sold for $350.





    The original 1877 Rolling Block listed for $16-17.

    http://gunsmagazine.com/the-remingto...rolling-block/

    Adjusting for inflation, that's $359.43-381.90.

    http://www.westegg.com/inflation

    With modern machinery and less need for skilled machinists for making the parts, I suspect that they could be sold for less than that today.
    The fact is that today's rolling blocks sell for more than 2X the $350 you think they should sell for.

    I think Henry just stepped into a market void left by the passing of the H&R Handi Rifle. It looks a nicer, sells for about the same price, but doesn't have interchangeable barrels. I hope they do well.

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    I too would prefer a rolling block, but may have to settle for a break action in 45-70. I picked up the Dixie catalog, not ready to drop $1200 on an rb! Tossing around rebarreling a Swede Remington to a 35 rem? Flyer

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    No 30-30, 30-40, 38-55, or 45LC.

    44 Mag and 45-70 were good calls. I suppose .308, .243 and .223 make sense based on ammunition sales.

    Interchangeable barrels and a custom shop will help them a good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPRNY View Post
    No 30-30, 30-40, 38-55, or 45LC.

    44 Mag and 45-70 were good calls. I suppose .308, .243 and .223 make sense based on ammunition sales.

    Interchangeable barrels and a custom shop will help them a good deal.
    If they made the barrels with the exact same linkage as some other rifle which had a large body of aftermarket barrels for it (e.g. Thompson Encore), then that would help a lot.

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    If I were them I would not make it w/ the same linkage. And I can understand not wanting them to interchange w/ their own barrels. That means less sales of rifles. But the interchangeable barrels would make it great for young kids. Start them out w/ 22lr, then 223, then 243 and so on. Throw in the pistol calibers for fun and one receiver is all one would need from the time they start shooting through adulthood. But they're in this to make money and not make it convenient for us.

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