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    The CSAA only got 2,900 Lemat's don't think that was the problem.

    Let's try some other rare handguns
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    Post #61
    1 British Welrod
    2Norwegian Sungaard
    3Bergmann
    4Japanese Hino Komura
    5 No idea!
    6Norwegian Landstaad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artful View Post
    The CSAA only got 2,900 Lemat's don't think that was the problem.

    Let's try some other rare handguns
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    No. 3 looks like a Mars pistol. No clue on the others.


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    Is fatelk's post #13.......... a .55 Boys AT casing and .50 BMG.
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    Wow, that's a good one. I can only guess it's some kind of old shotshell crimper? Beyond that wild guess I haven't a clue.

    Is fatelk's post #13.......... a .55 Boys AT casing and .50 BMG.
    Good guess. The one on the right is definitely a .50 BMG, but the one on the left is actually a Japanese 13.2mm Hotchkiss, a very close cousin to the big fifty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HABCAN View Post
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    Is fatelk's post #13.......... a .55 Boys AT casing and .50 BMG.
    ?...A shot shell crimp finisher/burnisher...? This is a wild butt guess, I don't do shot shells.

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    I'm pretty sure it makes a roll crimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred2892 View Post
    Post #61
    1 British Welrod
    2Norwegian Sungaard
    3Bergmann
    4Japanese Hino Komura
    5 No idea!
    6Norwegian Landstaad

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    OH, your good all correct except for #5 which is really unfair
    unless your a fan of Ian's Forgotten Weapons videos
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    Quote Originally Posted by HABCAN View Post
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    Is fatelk's post #13.......... a .55 Boys AT casing and .50 BMG.
    It,s a Roll Turnover Tool,I use one all the time to load my Black Powder Shotgun Shells.

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    What is this simple Tool.

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    Hard to tell by the picture, but if thats a blade set into the shaft it will be a cartridge trimmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HABCAN View Post
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    I just sold one of those at the Sept gunshow, for $7
    I got it from a garage sale and posted about in August.
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    Time to clear up the mysteries of Post #57.

    Starting at 12 O'clock, the oblong-shaped object, it bears the following writing on the outside BREECH SHIELD 7790929, which I assume is a part number. I don't know where, when or how this got into my parts drawers, nor do I know what it is for. Since it is small the weapon it is for is probably smallish and for a pistol cartridge, so perhaps a submachine gun of some sort?

    The brass ammunition items in the center are "captive piston cartridges". I posted a "What's it?" about a year ago and three forum members readily identified them. I found, picked up and kept 6 of them when picking up the brass on an armed forces pistol range after qualification. They exactly fit into the cylinder of a .38 Special revolver. My entire knowledge on the subject is the result of a couple of "Googles", and it is one of those things that you can read about and still have questions. Supposedly such ammunition was developed by the Russians in the 1980s for a variety of weapons and is almost silent when discharged. The piston fits into the case over a small powder charge with the long, narrow end up. When fired, the piston drives the bullet into the bore and the gasses and noise are contained inside the case. They have been adapted to revolvers, pistols, and even AK-47s. The specimens shown are made of very heavy brass. Apparently the Russians aren't the only ones who use them. There are other clues that perhaps they date back to the Viet Nam War and were used by Tunnel Rats against underground opposition. That's about the extent of my knowledge on the subject.

    The oddly shaped item on the bottom at 6 O'clock is the left hand grip panel for a WW II U.S. bayonet which would fit either the M1903 Springfield or M1 Garand. This is the generation of bayonet that had the blades cut down from the long WW I version or were manufactured with a 10 inch blade.


    The last two items: I thought they'd be easily identified. Fatelk correctly identified the cut off bayonet lug of an SKS rifle, the larger one came off of a Mosin-Nagant M44 carbine. Sporters made from these rifles look peculiar if the lug remains in place. Here's the SKS that the lug was removed from.
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    Spot on Fred 2892,you blokes are good.The own made cutter saves a lot of time when cutting Shotshells down ready for loading and Roll Crimping.

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    Very ingenious, Col4570. I can see that the length of the peg below the blade makes for a uniform length. Over here, as they say, there seems to be a group of shotgun shooters that will reload a factory loaded shell once, then trash it. Others will reload them two or three times and trash them. I'm wondering about how many reloads you get from the average hull, and also wondering if yours are more durable than ours? In theory, I would think, once the end will no longer crimp well it could be trimmed as in your photo, be re-crimped, and just be shorter. Of course, one might encounter the need for a different wad column resulting in different pressures, etc., so I'd be very interested to hear about this from you.

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    Yes, guys, you're right: my posted pic IS of a bench-mounted 12-gauge shotshell roll crimper. They came in all colors and the 'gold' ones were 'special', LOL. They were IIRC in much use up to the '60's. Star-crimped plastics made them obsolete, but they can put a beautiful roll crimp on a 'paper' shell and not so shabby a one on cut-down plastics if you spin 'em hard enough to get warm, LOL. BTDT.
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    Lets try some rifles
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    No. 1: CEI-Rigotti Automatic Rifle Italian, about 1900
    No. 2: ?
    No. 3. ?
    No. 4: St. Etienne Semi-Auto French 1917/1918
    No. 5: ?
    No. 6: US T-25 prototype
    No. 7: Smith & Wesson Model 1940 Light Rifle
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    No. 5 Walther WA 2000

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    Doing good with the answers so far being correct - just 2 and 3 left - I'm impressed
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check