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Thread: SAFETY ALERT!! ........Maxxtech 9mm Brass

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    Boolit Grand Master FergusonTO35's Avatar
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    As long as the bullet you're loading into the newer Blazer, et. al. brass is the same length as the factory bullet was, you'll never notice the difference, unless you shorten the OAL. Look inside those cases and you'll see a slight step about half way down the case wall.

    Hope this helps.

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    Thanks for the tip, I will look at them tonight. I have loaded the Lee 356-102-2R in them at .975 no problemo.
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    I remembered seeing a few of these cases when I did my last batch of 9mm. Didn't really think anything of it, then today got the chronograph out and looked at how fast they were going. These were all loaded on the same day, with the same primers, same powder, same bullet, same everything. I shot a few each of 4 headstamps...
    RP - 1106, 1154, 1165
    Win - 1147, 1171, 1151
    FC - 1141, 1185, 1145
    Ammoload - 1192, 1179

    Maybe 30fps faster on average. These were not max loads btw.
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    Wow, I spotted a weird case while loading monday, I saw this thread yesterday, after digging it out of my old brass bucket its the ammoland one made like the picture. After I sort this big batch to see if I missed any I need to get better catching this stuff.
    When all the problems with 9mm iys almost not worth loading 9mm.

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    Ammoload 9mm brass next to standard 9mm brass

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    I have developed a habit of looking at the head stamp of my brass before I insert it in the shell holder so it is easy to cull brass I don't want to load.

    I have loaded the Ammoload brass with out any problems but now cull them with other odd head stamps.

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    I check every headstamp when I deprime an look inside for rocks and what not and noticed that in an ammoland brass only saw that one so maybe someone reloaded it? It looked fine didn't like the "step" so I pinched it closed and tossed it in the bucket. 9mm is just way to easy to get to think about loading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest r View Post
    Ammoload 9mm brass next to standard 9mm brass

    That doesn't look too bad, after all. Definitely there is a difference in volume, but is the case totally useless? I don't think so. With moderate loads it shouldn't be a safety issue in modern 9mm pistol. These stepped cases would generate little more speed and that's it.

    Has anyone measured the volume of that case (f.e. with water)? How many grains of water can it hold compared to standard case?
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    I reload those the same as all my other brass. I have not had any problems.


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    Looks like web is thicker too

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    Quote Originally Posted by OS OK View Post
    Can you give us a pic looking inside and the headstamp?

    Thanks for the warning, I was not aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minuteshaver View Post
    does this come in rifle cases?
    Don't know. Once-fired 9mm brass that I bought on-line.


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    I set my sizing die up so that the decapping stem just touches the bottom of several cases (Rem, Win etc.) and then back it off just a bit. For the cases with this internal shelf the decapping stem hits the bottom of these cases and a couple other brands of cases. Hitting the bottom is easy to feel and so far I have not bent my decapping stem.

    I throw them into a separate box for recycling to the scrap metal place.

    You might get away with shooting them in your gun but they are probably over pressure loads.
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    Klcarrol, it's strange, but some 6.5 Cracano casings have a step inside the case neck,( berdan milsurp.) Fivefang

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    I just sorted about 100 of these out of some range brass I was gifted while up in Maryland at a match.

    Makes sense that they could be loaded-down for starters, run through a chrono to see what kind of numbers pop-up. I'm looking at them now ... seating 115 gr RN FMJ down to the ledge, that's gotta be a 30% decrease in case volume ... maybe at little bit of 320 or 330, I'll have to look it up but it seems doable.

    My initial thoughts are these might be worth working-with but I dunno. As someone has already noted ... if it can achieve necessary velocities with decreased propellant charges without pressure issues ... I'm gonna give these a try. Too many of them showing-up lately to ignore or trash ... not if they're long-life brass. Could make stash ammo out of them at the very least.

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    Great post above to a 6-year-old thread. Times they do change!

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check