Best cast cartridge for a Martini cadet?

[andym79]

Hi guys, you may have seen from my other post that i am considering a wildcat in a Martini Cadet.

In the interest however of meeting my original idea, I welcome suggestions as to the best cartridge that I can get to fit into a martini cadet.

By best I mean the mostly likely to prove accurate using cast bullets out to 200 yards!

all suggestions welcome wildcat or standard!

[M-Tecs]

The 30 Reese would be my first choice. It's basically a rimmed 300 Black Out.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...300-rimmed-BLK

http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...881/30-357-mag

http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/hr-cent...ackout-rimmed/

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...k-357-wildcat/

30 Badger
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...adger-30-Reece

One more option http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=570

the 32-20 is another option.

[andym79]

Thanks for the reply and links.

I will read them throughly soon.

If I chose the 300 BO I never planed on using it as a true 300 rimless. Rather if I choose it the chamber would be cut with a 300 BO and use 5.6*50r brass to form a rimmed version.

So the rimmed version the 30 Reece is a bit smaller?

What size leade does the Reece have? Can you feed it with big slugs as well as medium ones?

[M-Tecs]

What I posted about is about the limit of my knowledge on these cartridges. I may be getting a friends Martini Cadet in a year or two. The bore is rough. If I do get it I am going with a true rimmed 300 BLK since that is the lowest cost for reamers and dies. Wish I could help more but until I actual get the Cadet work out the details. I have all my reamers ground by Pacific Tool. They don't charge any more for custom so I have my reamers ground to my specs.

[old turtle]

Being your basic weird-o I obtained a cadet action and put a Douglas barrel on it. It is chambered in 30-20tc which is a 32-20 necked to .30. I am still playing with it and i have just acquired a NOE 150 gr. mold. It shoots well with 115 to 130 bullets. Still playing with powder. Experimenting is part of the fun.

[gewehrfreund]

218 Bee, 357 Mag. and 32-20 would be my preference in that order.

[Bill Torzsok]

Try the 25-20 win, if you want to have fun.

[iomskp]

There is always the .300sherwood an original caliber for the Martini action.

Regards Trevor

[M-Tecs]

There is always the .300sherwood an original caliber for the Martini action.

Regards Trevor

http://www.300sherwood.net/ What's brass availability?

[Jedman]

You didn't mention what you wanted to use this for target only or maybe hunting ?
Not knowing what is easy to get in Australia I would say 357 Magnum.
The 310 Cadet cartridge was suppose to be usable to 300 yards so a 357 is a good bit more power so it should be good for 200 yards.
I have a cadet chambered in 357 maximum and it is not ideal, extraction is more of a pick it out of the chamber with your fingers as the brass is to long for a true strait walled case in the cadet rifle but the 357 magnum works much better.
I like wildcats as much as anybody but having easy to get components is always nice if your going to shoot a lot.

Jedman

[Bad Ass Wallace]

For 200yd shooting I would look toward a 25/35 or 32/40. Both cartridges will fit the Cadet action.

[M-Tecs]

Outstanding rifle except the stock is backwards. Love the figure/grain in the stock.

Since I already have a 32/40 reamer you got me thinking.

My knowledge on Martini Cadet's is very limited. I've only held by buddies a couple of times and I have never worked on one. Everything the I've read indicated that long of case length would be an issue. Since both those cartridges have lots of body taper do you have to do any additional mod's for a cartridge as long as the 32/40?

[andym79]

Does anyone here have a cadet in 25-35, 7-30, 30-30 or 32-40? If so I would like to know if they load and extract ok without modifying the martini. If these cartridges are on the table then it may change things a bit. In my opinion past 100 yards the rifle cartridges generally have the edge over pistol cartridges.

[M-Tecs]

I would think the 25-35 and 32-40 would be at the upper end of the pressure range I would want in a Cadet, but, again I have very little Cadet/Martini knowledge so at this point all I have is questions and general plan on what I may do if I get my buddies Cadet.

[M-Tecs]

Found these with a little research:

http://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/Ya...num=1327446643

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...tni-Conversion

[Tatume]

The 30-30 and 32-40 are both excellent hunting and target cartridges. Components, particularly cases, are more readily available for the 30-30.

[357Mag]

Andym -Howdy !A .351SL would have th esame rim diam. Could also be necked-down to a long tapered side-wall .32" cal .With regards, 357Mag

[Bad Ass Wallace]

I have two projects in play now both 32/40 on a Cadet action using military 8mm Mauser barrels. Cut off at the original chamber at the shoulder and there is still enough metal to thread for the Martini and as well as leaving the original rear sight base in place, you can mount a scope using a "no drill" mount in the base.





Found a bit of fancy walnut for the stock.

[Tatume]

That sure is a pretty piece of walnut.

[andym79]

Bad ***, so a 25-35 or 32-40 will defintely work in a Cadet action without breech seating?