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    powder through expander

    This is for a powder drop expander, don't know to edit the thread title.

    I recently did some casting for my 40s&w and tried to get the powder through expander that came with the hornday bullet drop die to work. The expander did not flair the case enough to get the cast bullet to sit in case feed from the bullet drop die. Is there someone that makes custom powder through expanders for the powder drop? This is for a hornady lnl progressive press with hornady powder drop. Thanks.
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    With the Lee die, it flares more as you set the die deeper in the press.
    Might yours work like that?
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    It seemed if I set it any deeper it would have damaged the case. The hornady powder through expander that came with the bullet drop had a short flair area then an abrupt ledge. I will edit the post to say powder drop expander.

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    The LEE powder-thru expander dies work PERFECTLY. Sometimes the "name" does not mean it works better.

    I have at least 20 Lee dies and all the expander powder-thru dies are fully adjustable to any amount of flare you want/need. I use them all the time....for years.

    Lee get trashed on here all the time.........but they make excellent products!

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    There is a universal one that is available but I don't have the link.

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    I used the Lee that I have just a couple of hours ago on some 40 S&W. Works, that's all that matters.

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    Lee powder thru expanders have worked fine for me. NOE I think makes a few custom ones, but the Lee's are less than $12 from Titan (site sponsor) http://www.titanreloading.com/pistol...-expanding-die
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    I do have the lee expanding die but I am looking for something that goes inside of the case activated powder drop, maybe I am calling it the wrong thing.

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    No, you are calling it the correct thing. As usual people don't read or have poor comprehension skills. NOE makes a limited number of powder through expanders for Lee dies. Last time I looked there were very few stock. I don't know of anyone else that makes them.

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    Lee makes a powder through expander die for handgun calibers that expands the brass inside , and they make a die to charge rifle calibers that flares the mouth only not the whole depth of the neck . Witch one are you referring to ? Or did I miss it .

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    I am looking to replace the hornady FTX powder through,the inside piece of a case operated powder drop. Does anyone know if the RCBS powderpistol expander would work in the hornady case operated powder drop?

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    On my LnL AP's I use Lee auto-disk measures when loading pistol as these are superior to the Hornady powder measure IMHO.
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    the Lee universal expanding die does just that but it does not drop powder through it it is not hollow!

    I would order a Lee powder die for your specific caliber with the understanding that it only works with the Lee powder measures and all makers seem to think that everyone loads jacketed bullets which do not require as much case mouth flare as a cast boolit! You may have to contact NOE about your problem even if you buy the Lee die.

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    I understand (I think) the OP's problem; some Lee powder through dies have a taper to flare the case mouth, but, it is often "short", and ends in an edge or a 90 degree angle slightly larger than the case OD. I had a 45 ACP powder through die that the case would bump up against the "ridge" before enough flare was formed in the case mouth (more depth/force would collapse cases). I don't have a lathe anymore so I didn't have a way to cut more taper in the die insert. Since I don't charge cases on my press I just bought an RCBS die to flare the case mouth enough to seat my "custom sized" lead bullets...
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    People here love to bash the folks with the orange boxes, but I have had great results with Lyman's through the expander powder drop set. In fact, the only problem I've ever had with it was trying to expand virgin 327 Fed Max brass from Starline. It comes so squeaky clean that the inside of the case neck "grabs" the spud and makes it hard to pull back out. A little graphite powder in there takes care of the problem. If you can't get satisfaction with your Hornady set up, I would suggest you pick up the Lyman set... just my personal experience, YMMV, of course.

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    The Lyman does not work w/ a case activated measure.

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    I'd just give hornady a call on Monday and discuss it with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by original View Post
    I do have the lee expanding die but I am looking for something that goes inside of the case activated powder drop, maybe I am calling it the wrong thing.
    original,
    I got this sneaking suspicion no one here fully understands your problem. I don't know how Hornady's lnl setup's work? But I can say, generally the case expander is part of the die, not part of the measure...but can be part of both if assembled together. Photo's may help us help you.
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    Great idea, didnt even think about calling hornady, will check with them on monday. thanks again for everyones input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post
    People here love to bash the folks with the orange boxes, but I have had great results with Lyman's through the expander powder drop set. In fact, the only problem I've ever had with it was trying to expand virgin 327 Fed Max brass from Starline. It comes so squeaky clean that the inside of the case neck "grabs" the spud and makes it hard to pull back out. A little graphite powder in there takes care of the problem. If you can't get satisfaction with your Hornady set up, I would suggest you pick up the Lyman set... just my personal experience, YMMV, of course.

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