Planned gunsmithing shop purchase: what are the most common jobs?

[sparky45]

Oh, to be as naive as the weasel. Can't you see this is ALL subject to interpretation? When they get the order (not law) to tighten the "screws" guess what happens; you find yourself in a court trying to defend yourself against a unwritten law. Happens all the time with the likes of the EPA, IRS, ect.

[KenH]

ON another note, I don't see this subject in post #67..........

Doc, you are correct, #67 was a typo on my part, the correct number is #69. I've edited my post to reflect this.

Folks, if you go to this link to read a PDF file issued by US Dept of State you will find the named concerns on page 3.

https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/complia...ufacturers.pdf

2. Registration Required – Manufacturing: In response to questions from persons engagedin the business of gunsmithing, DDTC has found in specific cases that ITAR registration isrequired because the following activities meet the ordinary, contemporary, commonmeaning of “manufacturing” and, therefore, constitute “manufacturing” for ITAR purposes:

a) Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability of assembled or repaired firearms;

b) Modifications to a firearm that change round capacity;

c) The production of firearm parts (including, but not limited to, barrels, stocks,cylinders, breech mechanisms, triggers, silencers, or suppressors);

d) The systemized production of ammunition, including the automated loading or reloading of ammunition;

e) The machining or cutting of firearms, e.g., threading of muzzles or muzzle brake installation requiring machining, that results in an enhanced capability;

f) Rechambering firearms through machining, cutting, or drilling;

g) Chambering, cutting, or threading barrel blanks; and

h) Blueprinting firearms by machining the barrel.

Note items how many things are considered day to day gunsmithing chores.

Also, this link says a gunsmith doing only "one occasion" requires registrating:

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...22_11&rgn=div8

122.1 Registration requirements........ For the purpose of this subchapter, engaging in such a business requires only one occasion of manufacturing or exporting or temporarily importing a defense article or furnishing a defense service. A manufacturer who does not engage in exporting must nevertheless register.....



Ken H>

[sparky45]

Doc, you are correct, #67 was a typo on my part, the correct number is #69. I've edited my post to reflect this.

Folks, if you go to this link to read a PDF file issued by US Dept of State you will find the named concerns on page 3.

https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/complia...ufacturers.pdf

2. Registration Required – Manufacturing: In response to questions from persons engagedin the business of gunsmithing, DDTC has found in specific cases that ITAR registration isrequired because the following activities meet the ordinary, contemporary, commonmeaning of “manufacturing” and, therefore, constitute “manufacturing” for ITAR purposes:


c) The production of firearm parts (including, but not limited to, barrels, stocks,cylinders, breech mechanisms, triggers, silencers, or suppressors);





Ken H>

In other words; whatever the bureaucrats deem in included.

[KenH]

You're right Sparky - it looks like almost anything a gunsmith does will require that $2250 (?) license. I think perhaps it might not apply to us home machinist who enjoy building our own stuff........ maybe!!!!!!

[44man]

We will lose gunsmiths due to Obumber. He is not done yet and Hilliar will make it worse.
Talk about guns will be illegal soon so our site might fold. First amendment will be taken away. All of us might be charged and fined. Our time is short.
See this. https://www.nraila.org/articles/2016...ve-gun-control

[44man]

Here is another one. https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015...related-speech

[44man]

Can I work on my gun to make better? Maybe not if I post and get raided. I will not be able to talk to you anymore. Hitler has come again.
Look at how many have been killed from the Clinton's. Supreme court justice murdered. Anyone to testify against them.