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Thread: "Rat fart" load in 30-06

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    Boolit Grand Master Outpost75's Avatar
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    Accurate has lots of different .30 cal. rifle and .32 pistol and revolver bullets listed, any of which can be tweaked in dimensions when you order, to suit your gun and alloy, and you don't have to wait to put together a group buy. Turnaround time on custom molds is 4 weeks. I have a bunch of Tom's molds... NOT an all-inclusive list, but a few examples of his .30-.32 cal. gaschecked designs from 125-165 grains:

    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...31-120EG-D.png
    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...31-120FG-D.png
    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=31-125B-D.png
    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=31-135B-D.png
    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=31-135G-D.png
    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...31-150BG-D.png
    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=31-160G-D.png
    http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=31-165B-D.png
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    If your bullet does 13-1400 fps as I suspect it will be okay for coyotes at calling ranges with decent shot placement. 9 grains TG will give about 1600 fps, and both approximate moderate 32-20 loads. Plainbase bullets will not shoot well at your desired velocity range, and in all truth a plainbase won't shoot at 1600 fps either.

    If you want more speed, a gascheck is in your future. If you want more speed and decent accuracy, a gascheck and a different powder are in your future. At your desired velocity range TG powder does not do well as something slower as pressures are higher than they need be.

    A very fine 100 yard load is the Lee C113F over 9 grains Titegroup, Red Dot, W231, 700X, or Bullseye. Velocity approximates 1550 fps, power is ample for coyote, and accuracy more than suitable for the task. At fifty yards five shot groups routinely do near 5/8" for an average out of a Savage 30-06 using W231 or Bullseye. I am sure you could approximate that as well given a halfway decent chambering job by your rifle maker.

    Not hardly a "rat fart" load, but really, no "farty" loads are 100 yard coyote capable. I'd call them 32-20 loads as that's pretty much what they are.
    Last edited by 35remington; 04-23-2016 at 02:43 PM.

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    I've been reading "stickies". (I think I'll be very old before I've read them all!) There is a LOT of information on this web site.

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    Larry Gibson has a thread just on mouse fart loads in this thread:
    Recipes for mouse fart loads in 30-06
    There is several people that have tryed these, I for one, I use 3.2 gr bullseye under a 93 gr lee cast boolit with LLA lube.
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    Chronograph results: today I fired 2 five shot strings using my new Chrony on the "Rat Fart" load.
    Shot no 1: 1296 2: 1233 3: 1275 4: 1256 5: 1280. Those were all sized to .310" and otherwise identical to the next five, witch were sized .309" and were clocked as follows: 6: 1214 7: 1180 8: 1197 9: 1191 and no 10 : 1225.

    So, it is back to the drawing board for me, and I'm thinking I should have posted this blurb in the "reduced load" forum. My apologies.
    On a happier note, this load would be great for coon hunters, and varminteers who don't mind making a little bit of noise.

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    That's about what I said you'd get.

    That speed is hardly useless!

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    Thanks, 35. I agree the speed isn't fatal, so that load will see some use in my 700 ADL. I'm looking for a light boolit that will be effective to 100 yards. I also agree that I'll be looking at gas checks and slower powders for that load. This load at 50 yards is incredibly accurate, and FUN to shoot.

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    Best kinda load there is....fun and accurate. I think so, anyway, and most of my reduced loads for full power rifles approximate yours, as cheap helps as well. Although speed limited plainbase bullets give satisfaction in these areas.

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    Here's some low velocity reloading data for the 30-06 - pick one:
    http://www.reloadammo.com/3006load.htm
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check