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    The instructions with my Thumlers model B indicated that the drum has a 15 pound capacity. Here's how I load it:

    5 pounds of SS pins

    5 pounds of brass, and

    5 pounds or so of water. This will cover the brass by an inch or two.

    To this I add 1 ounce of wash and wax and 1/4 TSP of Lemi-Shine. That's it. Tumble for 3 or 4 hours depending on how tarnished the brass was.

    23 pounds is way over the weight I've ever used in the model B drum, although I've experimented with a couple pounds over 15 and that still worked fine.

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    I weighed my tumbler drum with the pins, brass and water already in it. The 'whole shootin match' so to speak. I'll weigh the tumbler by itself and see what I've actually been doing…thanks for the specs. and info.

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    I use dawn or simple green, with a touch of lemon shine. Use the hottest tap water. Never had any problems. Use cold water to rinse off with then put them in a dehydrator on racks to dry. Works great for me.


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    I weighted the tumbler with the pins in it, 13 pounds 1 oz., take the 5# of pins off, it weighs 8#, take that off the 23# limit I use and I have a 15# payload only, it's not overweight…wish I could say the same about myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OS OK View Post
    I weighted the tumbler with the pins in it, 13 pounds 1 oz., take the 5# of pins off, it weighs 8#, take that off the 23# limit I use and I have a 15# payload only, it's not overweight…wish I could say the same about myself!

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    Good line, Charlie -

    Do you think lightening up on your Lemi-Shine might help you get more brilliance to your shine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou52 View Post
    Good line, Charlie -

    Do you think lightening up on your Lemi-Shine might help you get more brilliance to your shine?

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    Hard to say one way or the other. Like I mentioned before, I just put a 'pinch' in with the Armor All to do the initial wash and they came out brownish. That pinch was less than 1/4 spoon, less by at least 1/3 of that 1/4 everyone uses, I dunnoh what to think about Lemi Shine and my well water combined.

    I'm confused now…charlie
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    Two things; either you tumbled the brass to long or you didn't use enough Dawn, probably the Dawn is my guess.

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    For $9 you can buy 1# bag of citric acid. Too much will make brass dull. Same with Lemishine.

    http://www.dudadiesel.com/search.php?query=citric

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg31872 View Post
    Wow! That brass looks great.
    Are you adding SS pins to this , or just tumbling the brass in the soap/lemmi mix?
    And how long is too long to leave the brass in the soup?
    Yes, that recipe is 5 pounds of SS pins, 1 ounce of Blue Coral, 1/4 TSP of Lemi-Shine. Depending on the degree of tarnish, I tumble in the Thumbler's for 3-4 hours. After tumbling, I rinse in cold tap water and immediately dry the cases so there is no water spotting on the surface of the brass.

    I'm not sure how long is too long, as I don't tumble over 4 hours.

    Thanks,

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    Just to repeat what Bayou52 posted in post #5, the "Original" Lemishine is no longer available, I just got back from WalMart to buy another bottle and couldn't find Original so I bought "Detergent Booster" instead as it seemed to be the same. Went to the Lemishine web site, and found the below comment on the consumers comments, indicating the "Booster" is the same as the "Original":

    Annomae

    · 8 months ago
    Which product is the original lemishine? I think it is the booster but I am not sure.

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    • Lemi Shine Customer Care

      · 8 months ago







      Hi Annomae,
      Lemi Shine Original has been renamed Lemi Shine Detergent Booster. The formula and directions remain the same. Thanks for asking!









    Thanks for the thread.

    Steve

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    In other words it's still Citric Acid.

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    If you looking for another citric acid product other than lemi shine have a look at water softener cleaner. It comes in powder or liquid form and can be found in the home depot type stores. I use it for cleaning the resin in my softener as I am on a well with high calcium. I will give it a try when I run out of lemi shine. I also have an R.O. system for drinking/cooking water that I am going to try washing the soap etc off the brass with just a little Armor all wash wax. The R. O. water is very close to distilled water so I hope it will leave no hard water spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky45 View Post
    Two things; either you tumbled the brass to long or you didn't use enough Dawn, probably the Dawn is my guess.
    not using enough soap was one of my initial issues. Forget where I found it, but the suggestion was to use enough dawn that it is still bubbly when you open the cylinder after a cycle. I haven't had to clean off any residue since I started using more soap.
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    thanks for the recipe. It obviously works well.

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    Instead of shaking brass for several hours, I wet tumble for several hours and then shake the brass for 12 hours to clean off tarnish. The brass is looking good by now

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    A question for you guys using the auto wash and wax? Is this in addition to the Dawn or a replacement for it? I just bought a jug while at Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightman View Post
    A question for you guys using the auto wash and wax? Is this in addition to the Dawn or a replacement for it? I just bought a jug while at Walmart.
    I do not mix Dawn and auto wash and wax. The purpose behind using auto wash and wax, instead of Dawn, is to have a microscopic wax layer left on the brass so as to impede the return of tarnish.

    The Dawn would remove the microscopic wax that the auto wash and wax would otherwise apply.

    That's my practice, anyway...

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    Definitely a replacement.

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    The amount of citric acid (LemiShine) needed to produce highly polished brass varies according to how hard your water is. If you're unable to get the same results as the guys that are posting their recipes, try varying the amount of citric acid.

    Where I'm at, the water is hard... dang near crunchy. In my Frankford Arsenal Rotary Tumbler, I have to use two heaping tablespoons to get perfect results. So if your brass is still looking a bit grungy, try increasing (by small amounts) the citric acid. You'll know you've gone too far if the brass comes out with a pink tinge to it. The pink tinge won't hurt anything, it's just an indicator of too much citric acid. If you hit the pink, decrease (in small amounts) until the pink goes away. You've hit the garden spot at this point... you'll get maximum shine and good passivation.

    Buying bulk citric acid off of amazon is much less expensive than buying Lemi Shine.

    For Dillon press users:

    Brass cleaned by wet tumbling gets *so* clean that it isn't uncommon for it to become stuck to your powder through expander neck. If you use one of the all-in-one car wash/wax products mentioned by the guys in this thread, it will leave just enough lubrication behind that you won't have brass sticking in your press anymore.

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    What Phlier said, spot on.

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