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Thread: Original military 9mm Parabellum Bullet

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWM View Post
    Bullwolf: Very nice pictures!

    It looks like the 356402 has a longer, thinner nose than the original style?
    Could you tell me the length of the cone and width of the meplat of the original bullets?

    I am looking to get a mold for a P.08 (Luger) and would like to get the measurements as close as possible.
    Thanks.

    I don't know for sure if these bullets were intended for use in a Luger. They came along with my old Belgian Browning Hi Power which was purchased many years ago from a guard on a Naval base. Since one of the cartridges was obviously from 1918, I thought they might be relevant.

    Measurements are all outside measurements taken with calipers, not a micrometer.

    The Rem-UMC 9mm cartridge:
    Meplat - 0.170 inches
    Cone length - 0.305 inches

    The Western 1918 9mm cartridge:
    Meplat - 0.180 inches
    Cone Length - 0.310 inches

    Peters 9mm cartridge:
    Meplat - 0.175
    Did not really have a cone. Was more of a rounded flat nose.

    For comparison.

    Lyman 356402:
    Meplat - 0.180 inches
    Cone Length - 0.340 inches
    Projectile OAL - 0.615 inches

    You can probably look up the specs on the Lyman 356402 mould, to see how close my measurements really are.

    I would think somewhere out there you'd be able to find the specs for the original 9mm Luger truncated cone bullet. Might even be found on a Luger forum.



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    Thanks, that is great. It will get me in the ballpark.
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    GWM, you are apsolutly correct, it is your choice on who does your work, I know Verel is way up in years and does quality work when he can and I try to point him out to all I can. What ever your choice may be, it is the right one for you, it is possibly/clearly, your hard earned money, you will be trading for some pieces of metal with some holes in them.

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