Powders for 45 acp and 40 s&w

[Strtspdlx]

I've searched a bit and found them seperately. My question is which powder is a good choice to use in both. I hate buying seperate things such as two different primers already so if I can buy one powder id prefer that over Moa accuracy or cleanest burning. So far the only powders I've looked for are bullseye and w231. Which are out of stock on the one site I can get the best deal on everything. They do have cfe pistol. Reminder these will mainly be plinking loads to learn how to correctly shoot a pistol. They're not intended for competition or accuracy or to match velocities or any other load data aside from grains. If anyone could give me other options or if cfe pistol is fine is like to order everything this weekend. I appreciate your time and efforts. Also 45 is mainly 230gr tc boolits and 230gr rn Fmj but more so cast. 40s&w is mainly 165gr? (I'll have to double check that) tc Fmj and 170gr swc boolits
edit: I found my load data books. I picked titegroup as its the cheapest powder to buy in quantity to load for both rounds. I also searched now that I fixed my laptop and I found an array of useful threads. if anyone has any input you're more then welcome to comment. Thanks

[Hounddog]

Can't go wrong with Unique, WSF, or Universal. They are all about the same burn rate and the load data is almost interchangeable. They tend to fill the case pretty well so less chance of a double charge. WSF tends to meter better than Unique but I've never had a problem with it. I tend to get better groups with unique but your mileage may vary. These days with some powders being scarce you gotta make due with what you can get.

hounddog

[takasaki]

Red Dot and WST are my favorites for both 45 and 40.

[gwpercle]

A quick look in the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook 4 th Edition shows the following powders suitable for both, I'm sure there are others.

Clays
Bullseye
Red Dot
WST
231
Unique
Power Pistol

I know books are old school but a few reloading manuals are quite helpful.
Gary

[jcren]

Cfe works well in both, but low charge weights has the same dou le charge concern as bullseye and the like. I like hs-6 for both as well and volume prohibits doubles.

[mongoose33]

Red Dot and WST are my favorites for both 45 and 40.

I'm using 5.0 grains of WST behind 200gr boolits in .45, and 5.5 grains of WST behind 180-grain Rainier bullets in .40.

I also use WST in my 9mm. For me, it's the all-purpose powder.

[Shiloh]

Bullseye for the .45ACP, Unique for the .40. AA#5 for the forty as well.

Shiloh

[scattershot]

I like Red Dot in both the calibers you mentioned.

[varminter66]

I have actually had some great results today with Blue Dot in the 40, but I doubt that powder is usable in the 45.

[wv109323]

The new BE-86 may be a consideration. It is new enough that a lot of people are not using it and it is on the shelves.

[S.B.]

I don't load .40s but, in .45ACPs I use Winchester 231 near max under H&G 68s.
Steve

[Ed_Shot]

Red Dot/Promo and WSF get my vote.

[jsizemore]

If your considering Red Dot then you can use Promo. You'd be hard pressed to find a more economical powder.

[dougader]

Blue Dot works fine in 45 auto, especially for upper end loads.

For target loads, AA2, red dot, 231/hp38, WST, bullseye, vv320.

Crossover loads, universal, green dot, etc

High power loads, Power Pistol, Longshot, VV340/350, Blue Dot...

[Shiloh]

I have actually had some great results today with Blue Dot in the 40, but I doubt that powder is usable in the 45.

It works because of the higher pressure. A friend uses it for the 10mm.

Shiloh

[Hickok]

I use Unique in my 45 ACP, 40 S&W, and 9mm pistols. Gives top velocity and is accurate in all three for me.

[Mk42gunner]

I'd say anything from Bullseye to Blue dot could be made to work. Not too sure about the same powder working equally well in both cartridges, though.

Robert

[Dreadpiratebob]

I found Accurate #2 fit my situation, using 230grn Lee TC mould in .45 and Lee 175grn TC in .40 I could use 5.0 grns in my guns for both loads. I would of course advise caution as it would be fairly easy to double charge A#2. For a plinking round, it was hard to beat, 1200 ish rounds per pound of powder, makes a lot of plinkers.

[David2011]

WST and Titegroup have worked well for me in both calibers.

David

[noisewaterphd]

If you are a "one powder" kind of guy, then I would say Unique. Unique works really well across the most calibers. It is not my favorite for any of them though.