Neil Jones and Harrell's powder measure

[abunaitoo]

More from the house clean out.
Neil Jones and Sinclair International/Harrell's Precision.
Neil Jones missing the bottle.
How good are these measures????
Both looks well made.
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[country gent]

Both are high dollar measures and very accurate I have 2 Harrels one shutzen size and one standard both are increadibly accurate. Never worked with the Niel jones measure so cant comment there. My standard throws 41.5 grns IMR 4895 with in a 1/10 grain consistently. They also can be depended on to repeat 58 clicks is the same today as it was last week.

[M-Tecs]

Both are very nice measures. I have a Harrell and a buddy has a Jones. We are both very happy with them.

[jsizemore]

Neil Jones is a piece of junk and you should send it to me immediately.

I bought a premium and a schutzen/pistol Harrell's measures for what it cost for the Neil Jones. The Neil Jones didn't go down to pistol charge weights of powder.

The Neil Jones IS AWESOME and bottles are still available.

I'll trade my Harrell's Premium for that Neil Jones any day you want to.

[abunaitoo]

I found the Neil Jones site.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...asure+for+sale
This thing is expensive!!!!!
It look/feels very well made, but way to good for my type of shooting.

[Outpost75]

I have a couple Culver conversions of the Ideal. If you ever find one of these you need to grab it also!
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[1845greyhounds]

If I'm not mistaken, you can simply screw your 1# bottle of powder directly to the thrower. If not, Sinclair international should offer replacement bottles or bottle adapters. Those are NICE throwers.

[seagiant]

Hi,
They are for Benchrest Shooters!

[Outpost75]

If I'm not mistaken, you can simply screw your 1# bottle of powder directly to the thrower. If not, Sinclair international should offer replacement bottles or bottle adapters. Those are NICE throwers.

Sinclair sells both bottles and bottle adapters.

[Green Frog]

Homer Culver was probably the first to build these precise measures with his conversions for the Ideal #5 & 55 measures as a platform... Others made similar conversions, but Harrell raised the bar by building the same operating system into his precision, purpose-built bodies. The rest, as they say, is history! Incidentally, an even earlier micrometer measure was available from Ideal as the #5 M, which I have used for years to load IMR 4759.

Froggie

[Fluxed]

Probably two of the best measures ever made. I've had the Jones since he first made them (before that he made a Lyman conversion and I had one of those). I have a small Harrell's and am entirely happy with it too.

[Green Frog]

Probably two of the best measures ever made. I've had the Jones since he first made them (before that he made a Lyman conversion and I had one of those). I have a small Harrell's and am entirely happy with it too.

Do you still have one of the Jones Conversion units? How was it marked? I have what looks like the Culver conversion; it is nicely made and functions well but it has no maker's marking on it at all... I am aware of several different ones of them having been made, but can't seem to pin this one down.

Froggie

[Fluxed]

I think I gave it to my son. I'll ask him to snap a picture.

[tonyjones]

I have both measures. They are both superior, with respect to quality of manufacture and repeatability, to anything else I have used. I consider them to be equal. I prefer the Jones because I bought it first, am more familiar with it and have memorized and noted more settings with it.

A number of competitive shooters copied Homer Culver's measure. Most of these guys made only one for their own use. A few made a couple for their friends. A very few were sold at bench rest matches. At this point, decades later, it is likely impossible to determine who made what, especially if the measures were not marked.

[ole 5 hole group]

I have a couple Culver conversions of the Ideal. If you ever find one of these you need to grab it also!
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I have a couple Culver's I purchased from Homer but they aren't numbered (just his name stamped where it is on your measure) and one has the center rod colored red. Everybody use to refer to their powder loads by the "click" and when measured they were spot-on from one guy to the next. I think I still have his sheet comparing clicks to powder grains for most powders we used back then for benchrest.

[Fluxed]

Here are pics of the Jones conversion to a 55 Lyman.

[bstone5]

I have Jones purchased many years back, use it all the time.
Works very well have loaded thousands with the Jones.
Put the weight and Jones number on the labels for loaded round container boxes.
Keep a spread sheet for all loads and the Jones number is included in the spread sheet,