I shot some 150 grain 287405 bullets thru my .280 remington today. I wanted to see how LOUD 3.5 grains of Bulle eye will be when pushing this bullet. I also wanted to see how much penetration I will get. I got a 5 shot group of about 3/4". It measured .760" with my dial calipers.All the bullets were in one long hole that went from ten oclock to 5 oclock but were about 2" low of the aiming point. I set a gallon jug of water and 4 inches of dry phone books at 25 yards. The bullet went thru with out hardly shaking the bottle. Since I still had most of the water in the jug ,I added some mulch and sand to it. I hoped it would slow the next bullet enough to capture it in the books. It did not! I'm going to try again with 3 and 3.2 grains of bulls eye. I am also going to flat nose a few and try that. I have a chance to shoot some ground hogs this summer in a populated area that I shot over a couple years ago. I don't want to use the .22 Rimfire again.