32" Green Mountain barrel on the TC Hawken.
That could be a screamin' cannon.
32" Green Mountain barrel on the TC Hawken.
That could be a screamin' cannon.
It is a bit of an issue with muzzle loaders, no real standards on measurements. Some are tight some aren't. Everything I read about the REAL is your gun will shoot them good with little effort, some can fiddle with them to get them to work, and others just won't shoot them at all. I will mess with mine when I get a chance, try some wads, different charge weight, doesn't improve just stick with the sabots it does like. It drilled those 300gr shockwaves.
Back from the range. That gun just don't like them boolits. Can't keep 'em on a sheet of typing paper @ 50 yrds.
Patched RB shoots a nice little group...........
I'll be hunting with them
Knarley
Last edited by Knarley; 11-21-2015 at 05:06 PM.
A gun in hand is worth two cops on the phone.
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Can you measure the REALs you have? If it's 50 cal the upper band should measure about .517.
Aim small, miss small!
I took out three of my T/C's today, and fired the R.E.A.L. bullets in both .45 and .50 cal's
The .45 was the 200 gr, and the .50 was the 320 gr.
, Both shot with 50 gr of RS at 25 and 50 Yards.
All bullets, (once I got the sights adjusted), hit in the center of a 12" target.
I was shooting off my elbows resting on a bench, and there was a stiff wind in the afternoon.
They both shot better than 3" groups with open Factory sights.
With the RB both rifles were shooting where one ball touched the other hole and the third shot was about 2" away on several groups.
I blame that pattern on ME, not the rifle or load.
I am going to try the same load with a Wad next time and see if it helps.
The Slugs were cast out of Lead, some out of Lead with 1% Tin Added, and some out of a 1/3 Tin/ Antimony blend.
They all shot the same.
Oh, For the Lube, I just used straight Crisco, and the barrel was damp patch swabed between shots.
Mine shoots WAY better if using real black powder. They hate the Pyrorust powder. Shrunk my groups in half by switching powder.
I shot some more R.E.A.L. bullets out of my T/C .45 and .50 today at 50 Yards.
200 gr REAL with 43 gr of RS in the .45 and 51 gr of RS for the .50 under a 320 gr REAL .
Shot with out a wad, they had two shots touching each other, and one about 1.5" to 2" away on a three shot group.
Then I did not have wads, so I balled up a 1"x1" 1/4' square of dacron fiberfill and stuffed it in over the powder.
The rifle Kicked a little more, but the groups were about the same and not much smaller.
I lubed the slugs with straight Crisco.
I seem to have a flyer on all of my groups, be it with a BP or centerfire smokeless rifle, so I am not blaming the load.
I will do the same test at 100 yards in weeks to come, and I will get some proper wads and see if that helps or hurts.
But , Two shots touching at 50 yards, and being known to shoot a third shot flyer, I think they did pretty good in both rifles with a 1/48 twist.
BTW
One thing I forgot to mention.
On both rifles, the REAL slug shot Lower than the same load used in a Patched Round ball.
5.5" for the .45 and 7.5 for the .50 cal.
The RB loads grouped exactly the same at 50 yards.
Last edited by LAGS; 11-29-2015 at 12:26 AM.
I can see the r.e.a.l.'s grouping lower... they weigh more. are you weighing the RS on a scale? or loading volume? just a little confused.
I used a measure that I had checked with a scale.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |