Winchester 94 red.dot or scope rail

[Markbo]

I have a Winny top eject .30/30. My eyesight is just to the point that it is getting too hard to see iron sights. Handgun shooting is tough! I'd like to mount a small red dot or maybe a 2x LER scope so I do not want anything side mounted. I am not opposed to a barrel rail ala Marlin-I have a couple of those and am happy with them.

Does anyone make one?

[Baron von Trollwhack]

I suppose you could have a Burris Fast Fire mounted with it's base on the front of the 94 action. Burris could tell you if one of their bases fit.
In reality a side mounted rear sight fitted with a merit adjustable peep is likely as good as a 2X scope and certainly less "goofy" looking. That was my option.

BvT

[pull the trigger]

I have been thinking of finding a mount that fits in the rear dovetail to put a Fastfire on a Savage 340. I have tried real hard yet

[fastdadio]

Check this out. This is the direction I'm going and will be buying soon.
http://www.mod94scoperail.com/
I will be mounting a red dot reflex type aim point on my trapper with it. Should make a nice scout style carbine for close work and a good all around 'walk around' gun.

[Wizwheel]

I love the Burris Fastfire 3 on my 94AE, it sits far enough back that a top eject might still clear it. The AE was pre drilled, and was easy to mount.

[Markbo]

Well fast it ain't pretty but I haven't seen anything else. I was Hoping (wishing?) tbat someone had a short rail to attach in place of the rear sight specifically for a small reflex sight. I guess tbat doesn't exist.

[Greg S]

I was just looking at the XS Scout Rail Mount for the Winnie 94. It uses the existing screw holes/dovetails and requires no machining. They also make a rear aperture for the AE model that is pre-drilled and tapped.

[pietro]

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I've mounted several very small red-dots and/or reflex sights on Winchester-type leverguns via D/T'n the top of the bolt (on the centerline) for a single small Weaver-type base with an underside contour that was close to the contour of the bolt top there, for mounting the sights. (The sight travels with the bolt)

One of 6-7 reflex sights on the market:




One of several micro red-dot sights on the market:






That was 20-odd years ago, before Turnbull started making an L-shaped base for the Burris Fastfire II, that utilizes the two factory-prep holes usually for mounting a side-mounted receiver peep sight.





This is a micro reflex sight, F/S on E-Bay @ $20: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tactical-Hol...-/400771777050




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[Larry Gibson]

Burris used to make a "scout" mount specifically for the M94 Carbine. It does require a D&T'd hole (6x48) in the front band (I D&T'd through and into the barrel to make it more solid) but is held solidly by a large screw in a "nut" in the rear sight slot. It is very, very solid and properly puts a scout scope low where it is supposed to be for quick eye alignment. Might try to find one of with minimal machining a standard Burris, Leupold or Redfield base could easily be modified.

Larry Gibson

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[pietro]

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www.xssights.com has long made/sold their LeverScout mount for top-eject Winchester 94's, which use the old rear open sight barrel dovetail to secure the fwd end of the rail, and two 6-48 holes, D/T'd in the top of the front receiver ring, inline with the bore, to secure the rear end of the rail.

The XS app states that the Win 94 have a rear sight dovetail approx. 4" from the front edge of the receiver.

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[Kestrel4k]

I have a few 'scout rifles' and most certainly would recommend trying a setup like that if interested. It's not for everyone but some folks (including me) really like them.

I have a 'scout rifle' thread over at RFC with lots of pics; something there might spark your interest.
Let's see your scoped Scout Rifles - w/ pics

Edit: You might want to keep in mind that many modern handgun scopes (including Leupolds) have their optimum eye relief just a little too far away for a scout rifle IMO. The old Leupold handgun scopes or newer 'scout' scopes are great though.

I hope this helps,

[Larry Gibson]

A few of my current "scout" rifles. (Wire wrapped around the M96 and M91 is attached to strain gauge for pressure measurement with an Oehler M43)

Larry Gibson

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[fecmech]

I originally put a cheap pistol scope on my Rossi 92 for load development. Then I found a Leupold scout scope on this board for a reasonable price and bought it. Now the carbine with scout scope is my favorite at 6.75 lbs and just enough weight up front to help steady it. I had a friend D&T my octagon Rossi and put the pistol scope on it for load development. I shoot pistol cart silhouette with the octagon and the tang sight. BTW using the scopes I've been able to develop a sub 3moa 10 shot load for both rifles.

[Rusty Mustang]

Don't know if they still make them, but my 94 AE Trapper has "Iron Sighters" on it. They allow you to use the iron sights (go figure ) along with the scope. Mine's a 4x.

Although, truthfully, I'm considering taking them off and putting on a set of peeps like a Buffalo Classic has.

I'm not versed enough in 94's to know if a top eject can use Iron Sighters or not, that's why I joined this board.

Thanks for listenin'.

RM

[mac266]

To each his own, I guess. To me, all of those options are like putting chrome mags and a hydraulic suspension on a horse drawn wagon.

[Larry Gibson]

Tell us that when your eyes go south and you can't see the front sight on the M94 carbine well enough any more ven with a rear aperture sight. When that happens to you then you also might gussy up the buckboard......

Larry Gibson

[Ramjet-SS]

+1 Larry

[M-Tecs]

+2 Larry!!!!!!!!!

[Blackwater]

+3 with Larry. They didn't nickname the red dots "the old man's friend" for nothing! Scout scopes would qualify, too.

[fecmech]

When that happens to you then you also might gussy up the buckboard......

Fine choice of words and exactly why the scopes are on my guns.