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    Name a cartridge

    I'm in the process of building a wildcat cartridge and I haven't decided what to call it.

    It started as a 7x57, bored to .338 with a 14" twist.
    I ran a 338-06 reamer in till it cleaned up the old shoulder.

    Finished case length is 2.233. 56.71 mm

    Is it a 34x57. I don't like long names so 338-06 short is out.

    Thinking about weighing a case full of black powder and just go with 1800s style. Caliber-powder charge

    In cruising different forums I haven't seen where anyone had done this but I'm quite sure someone has. I know of a couple 35x60. 8mm bored to 35 short reamed with 35 Whelen. 8mm case with a long neck.

    Come on guys, throw me some ideas.
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    Oddly enough the case held exactly 57 gr of FFFg
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    338x57 would best describe it. How about 338 Wolf

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    Money Pit. Unless you can make your own dies you need to be setting down when you price custom dies. Shortened 338-06 dies would be the cheapest.

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    May not work for you, but "33 Roberts" or "338 Roberts" immediately came to mind.

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    "mine" ( well except i'd say yours but ...lolz )

    seeings how many change it just a wee bit AND providing you wanted part of the "old time-y" aspect why not 337-57 ( or 339 etc ) heck if you want your name on it 33 or 34 wolfer ( or whatever your name is , first last middle [shrugz]) and if you really really want brownie points name it after your girl
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    8.6x57mm.

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    Or how about .338x2.2"? This formulation has been used before for big game cartridges in imperial units.
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    My last name is Roberts. I'm not sure I can stamp all that on the barrel and keep it straight. I have a B-Square guide but I can do better without it.

    Lots of good ideas so far though.
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    .338 Short Mauser.Robert

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    The reason I picked this combo. I already had 338-06 cases, dies, mold, gas checks, sizer etc. I cast for my 338 win mag so this kept a lot of money out of the money pit. Or rather I could say I had already thrown this money into the pit.

    I have a 338-06 but I've put it somewhere safe and now I can't find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfer View Post
    The reason I picked this combo. I already had 338-06 cases, dies, mold, gas checks, sizer etc. I cast for my 338 win mag so this kept a lot of money out of the money pit. Or rather I could say I had already thrown this money into the pit.

    I have a 338-06 but I've put it somewhere safe and now I can't find it.
    I`ve made up several .338-06 rifles on the 1917 action. I have one of them, the other I made up and gave to a friend of mine that saved my life once.Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfer View Post
    My last name is Roberts. I'm not sure I can stamp all that on the barrel and keep it straight. I have a B-Square guide but I can do better without it.

    Lots of good ideas so far though.
    Whoa, parallel universe, as Mork might have said. my 338 Roberts idea was in honor of Ned Roberts, who designed the 257 Roberts by necking down the 7 mm Mauser. I think the Universe has spoken!

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    .33 Bob, .338 Bob, .34 Bob

    It isn't exactly a .257 Roberts or 7x57 case necked up, so it really doesn't need to be linked to those cases for clarity.

    A case could be made (bad pun, I know) for it to be named .33x57, there were a few rifles being talked about a few years ago that were the .30-06 and .35 Whelen cut off at x57 case length. Shortening the loading dies and running the reamer in short was basically all that was needed for them.

    Robert

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    I'd either go 338x57 or 338 Roberts
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    34-57 in keeping with BP designations. 30-30, 44-40 etc

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    34 mag

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    The little woman is pushing towards the .338 Roberts. I'm not what I call a vain man and don't want anyone to think I'm claiming the glory for it. I'm sure it's been done before. I don't expect this cartridge to do anything that many others won't do. I just didn't have the parts laying around to build those.

    Im partial to the black powder designation 34-57, my dads nickname was bob so I like 34 Bob.

    If I knew of someone that already had one then I would probably call it what ever they called theirs.
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    Well, I got 10 cases made last night after doing a pound cast. I wanted the end of my brass as close to the end of the chamber as I could. The pound cast showed I could be as long as 2.248 so I cut my cutter at 2.241

    Using 338 federal data I started at 20 gr of 2400 for 1750 fps. Worked up to 25 gr which got me 2015 fps.
    I was just shooting for velocity and to fire form some cases. Target was 30 yds, off the hood of the truck with no sandbags. After adjusting the scope and getting the velocity I wanted the last 4 shots left no paper between them. I'll get the stock bedded and shoot off the bench at 100 and 200 as soon as I get a chance.

    My goal was to be able to shoot a soft boolit ( bhn 10 ) to around 2000 fps accurately. I have trouble with this in my 10" twist guns.
    This is about all the recoil I want in a light handy rifle. Probably about equal to a 300 savage. I'm not recoil sensitive but I've grown to like shooting my 311041 at 1800 fps.
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