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Thread: E-Wax shelf life

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    E-Wax shelf life

    Just reading the some lube making threads made me remember that I should have some E-wax around.
    Found the invoice, purchased in 2009.

    Here is a link to the supplier's page-
    http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/item.php?item_id=183
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    Appearance: Off White Pastille
    Odor: Characteristic
    Solubility: Oil
    Storage: Tightly Sealed, Protect from Heat / Freezing
    Shelf: 24 Months
    GUIDELINES
    Usage: 2.0 to 10.0% *
    Processing: Add to Oil Phase and Heat to 170F
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    Is this good for making boolit lube and would it still be good after 6 years?

    I have no use for it and need to clean things out (packrat syndrome here).
    I believe it has been stored inside it's whole life, but I cannot guarantee that it didn't spend time in the garage.
    For reference older oils that I still have are good, nothing off or rancid ( I have a lot, used to sell candles/soaps and experimented with body products).

    I will look at it when I get chance, it is in my storage center (parents basement, some things never change).

    If it would be useful to anyone I am thinking about listing it for sale in smaller quantities (I bought 25lbs, didn't use much, price has increased, currently same price for 15lbs that I paid for 25lbs).

    Maybe a site fundraiser, pay shipping and then donate whatever you think it would be worth to the site.

    Otherwise I should just throw in the towel and toss it.

    Matt

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    I think you could probably use it, but it will take someone with more knowledge about waxes and oils than I to tell you how.

    My suggestion would be to pick a fairly simple lube with three or four ingredients; make a control sample of the original recipe, then substitute your wax for one of the others.

    Good Luck, fifteen pounds should make a lot of lube.

    Robert

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    Some of the best wax I ever used for bullet lube was likely produced in WWII and spend much of its storage life in the Nevada desert. Ask Lar45 about it sometime.

    Gear

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    from your link
    " Unlike some emulsifying waxes, Emulsifying Wax does not deteriorate on heating, experiencing only a slight alteration in color at temperatures up to 150-152°C for two hours. Under these severe conditions, it may lose 2-3% in weight with slight hardening of the wax."
    I wonder what kind of wax/waxes makes up "Emulsifying Wax"?
    and no doubt they add oils or such...from the above comment from your link, I suspect that info is
    proprietary. If I were you and planned to use and/or sell/giveaway this wax, I'd want to know this info and/or provide that info to those who would receive the wax.

    also, I have some beeswax, bought from a member (not randyrat), that was touted to be decades old and was "out of the rain and sun" was about all that was said about it's storage...still is a fine ingredient for boolit lube
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    -I think it is food/ veg oil derived emulsifier, hence the shelf life of 24 months away from heat and freezing.
    -Not good for mixing with any type of petro (I could be wrong)
    -It would mix well with vegetable oils/ animal fats to make Black powder lubes, but keep the shelf life in mind.
    -Very high cost, unless you have a cheap source.
    - Beeswax will do it better at a far less cost, mix with Veg oils, Petro, and other waxes also stable for life and beyond.

    BEESWAX is the cats meaw

    To the question--- If it hasn't separated and smells ok I think it is still good. Someone could use it for candles or similar things.

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