It's a nice rifle but I'd still take a 700 over it. With or without a chassis
It's a nice rifle but I'd still take a 700 over it. With or without a chassis
I would like to have another Rem 40XB or Winchester 52D in .22LR.Those were the guns I trained on growing up.
I have a very nice Win Mod 70 target rifle in .308win. It will shoot as good as I can.
Price is right fellers. There's a LGS here running a sale this weekend. You can have your choice of the 308 or the 6.5 Cree for $999
I need another rifle like I need a speeding ticket, but that right there is tempting!
Precision in the wrong place is only a placebo.
This rifle is going to create problems for the game wardens here. Semis are illegal for hunting use. I'd expect anyone using one of these in the field to be stopped and questioned by the wardens. There will be people using them because it's an easy transition if you shoot ARs all the time.
So at 100+ yards you'd be able to tell the difference between this rifle and a standard AR? Of course they can tell when inspecting the rifle. This is going to cause some issues here is all I was saying. W/ next to no bolt action ARs currently being used in the field a factory offering like this is going to open the door for them. Won't be an issue in most places but I already see the confrontations coming.
PA is the only state that I am aware of that doesn't allow semi-autos rifles for hunting. How much of a problem was it for the wardens with the Remington pumps verse the Remingtion autos?
Last edited by M-Tecs; 07-31-2015 at 12:36 PM.
Semis are allowed for shotguns. This is a problem that exists in PA but it will effect me personally.
Last edited by dragon813gt; 07-31-2015 at 01:42 PM.
I've thought for years about putting together a "heavier" LR rig. Usually thinking about a Manners T4A with the Minis Chassis some kind of 700 footprinted action in it.
Then this Ruger came along for a third or less of the price.
I'll own one eventually. Probably a .243, at least in the beginning. It'll take awhile for me to save the scratch for the rifle and scope (thinking Burris XTR), but that'll just give me time to see what the aftermarket does in terms of barrels and triggers.
Probably shouldn't say it here, but it'll prolly never see a cast boolit.
There's about a 17 page thread on these over on Snipershide with plenty of range testing. Looks like they hammer pretty well.
I'll agree it's not for everybody. It's not nearly as pretty as my two #1's. Though I don't think it's any uglier than some of the current production model #1's with pine (looking) stocks and a "parkerized" looking blue I've seen lately.
That's the great thing about guns. It's all pretty subjective. I can own pretty walnut and blue guns, and ugly adjustable plastic guns and like them both. Though I never did understand a big gawking sticker on the side of a walnut stock.
As far as a game warden not recognizing it for a bolt rifle, as I say more and more, 'thank God I live in Tennessee". No silly semi auto gun laws and most of our Game Wardens actually knew a semi auto from a bolt gun before they became a Game Warden. Lots of them will wind up owning one of the new Rugers, so recognition at distance shouldn't be an issue.
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Come hunt here and then tell me the same thing. I love when people comment that are out of area. A good portion of the wardens here are pricks. We try to avoid an interaction at all costs. I have nothing to hide so it's not like I will be fined. But they have ruined a few hunts for myself as well as friends and family. They don't care about remaining silent when walking to where you're at.
I guess I shouldn't have brought it up because this doesn't effect most of you. But for people hunting in PA it poses a potential problem for at least a year or so. Not all wardens keep up on what's new in the firearms world. And as the laws are written here there is a good chance you will be stopped if you have an AR slung over your shoulder when hunting. Even though there have been manually operated upper receivers available for some time now.
He didn't say shotguns...
750 auto
742
740
Pumps
760
7600
And whose fault is this? - get name's / badge numbers - call complain to those in personnel dept about the customer service you are receiving - they are your employee's - yes they enforce the laws but how they do so is up to their supervisors and the legislator - talk to them to correct bad behavior.
Last edited by Artful; 07-31-2015 at 04:08 PM.
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I need something new and never owned a 6.5 Creedmoor so contacted my dealer and he will put my name on one when he gets some more in a week or two (if I am lucky). Normally I do not buy right hand weapons as I am a lefty but with all the adjustments in the stock it might be a good fit.
Besides. shooting a rifle off the bench or on a monopod sometimes is easier using a bolt on the same side as the cheek weld.
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The .223 will perform best at 1000 yds with about an 80 gr bullet.
The 1in 8" should be about right.
So I guess it depends on what someone wants to do with their .223.
If I had a serious target rifle built for the caliber it would probably have the 1in 8" twist.
I have notice a lot of people here test their cast bullet loads at 50yds.
I am not sure why they do that .Most bullets don't really stabilize well until you get to 100 + yds. After I sight in, I test all my cast bullet rifle loads at 100 and 200 yds.If they will not shoot well at 100yds then I work more on load.
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I test all my magnum handgun loads at 100 yds as well.
A good many rifles will shoot well at 100 yds. Check them at 200 or 300 then you will know you have.
My best .308 target rifle will hit golf balls consistently at 300yds.With match grade bullets of course.
Last edited by Clay M; 08-01-2015 at 10:57 PM.
I have more guns now then I need, but i guess i can make room for one more. i am thinking 6.5 or 243
The stupidity is most of those are on short barreled M4 wannabes. 99.9999999% of the time elcheapo blasting M193 ammo with 55 gr bullets is used in them...... Sure makes a lot of sense. .......
I see several rifle makers have gone 12" twists for the .308W. The 175 gr match bullets are the bullets of choice these days for long range and the 12" twist 26 - 28" length barrels have proven best. The exception being Palma rifles in .308W with 145 - 155 gr bullets. The 13 & 14" twist barrelsof 27 -31" length excel there.
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I'm curious to see how long it will take before aftermarket barrels in large bores arrive... I imagine a carbine length 458 SOCOM, 450 Bushmaster, 45 Raptor, or any thumper could be very tempting as an easy swap option for a multi-purpose rifle...
6.5, 308, and .458 capabilities would seem to leave very little uncovered, except game more suited to 22 long rifle.
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