question on Ideal 280468

[wmitty]

I purchased a single cavity Ideal 280468 mould thinking it might work for paper patching in a 7x57 Mauser. I assumed it was designed for the .270 Winchester's .277" groove diameter but after casting a hundred or so boolits yesterday I miked a few and found the as cast diameter to be running .282" - .283" .

I used an alloy of range scrap with about 20% wheel weights added ( by volume) and water dropped the boolits so they may be tough to size down to near land diameter for the Mauser. Anyone suggest a good mould for P.P.ing for the 7mm's?

[UBER7MM]

I think it's worth a try..

Let us know how it works out.

Safe shooting,

[wmitty]

I have sized thirty or so to .278" and patched them (hopefully) to groove diameter. I say hopefully 'cause I'm using tracing paper recommended by someone here and haven't miked a patched slug yet. Looked awful thin to me; especially when the patches were wetted. I still haven't run across any green printer paper. I'm gonna try these in the M 93 with the 860/ 4227 kicker load and see what transpires. The bare boolits weighed 129 grains as cast and the weight shown for this design on the Ol' Buffalo Bullet Mold Tables site showed only 114 grains; so gravity must of been pretty stout today in this part of Texas (heat was for sure).

[ohland]

The bare boolits weighed 129 grains as cast and the weight shown for this design on the Ol' Buffalo Bullet Mold Tables site showed only 114 grains

There are two sizes, the 6 groove 280468-L (129-ish) and the 5 groove 280468-S (114-ish).

I have both, fine Loverin boolits.

[wmitty]

Thanks for explaining, ohland. I was wondering what was going on.

[GrayTech]

I cast with a 280468 and it drops. 2805 with COWW.
Get yourself some cotton or linen paper, it's thicker and stronger. Size again after wrapping.

[wmitty]

Yep, I need a thicker patching material. I miked some of these yesterday and was getting .283". Was trying to use the tailless patching method and I guess I haven't got the touch; I was having patches slide off the boolits when I ran them thru the sizing die. I'll go back to twisting tails and clipping 'em off.

[UBER7MM]

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The 280468 at 109-114 grains will be a rocket out of your 7x57. Do you have a powder and charge in mind?

[GrayTech]

Yep, I need a thicker patching material. I miked some of these yesterday and was getting .283". Was trying to use the tailless patching method and I guess I haven't got the touch; I was having patches slide off the boolits when I ran them thru the sizing die. I'll go back to twisting tails and clipping 'em off.

If you're patching with wet paper it should shrink on petty tight when dry, even if it's not wrapped all that tight.
I have also used dry patch method and a dab of kids stick glue, which seems to work very well with linen paper, as long as you wrap them tight.
I don't like the twisted tail method, I leave 1/3 base diameter overhang, fold down with a twisting motion, and press flat on a hard surface. Leaves a nice flat base.

[wadcutter]

I'm bumping this old thread to see if you ever got results. I just got a 280468L, but don't have a 270 or plans on getting one. I'm wondering if the mold might be useful in 7mm Mauser. I love Loverin designs so I'm looking for an excuse to keep the mold

[wmitty]

I plan on trying to get to the range this afternoon; I'll post my results if they aren't too embarrassing.