My brother collects original firearms from every conflict the U.S. has been in, and he includes the Revolution. The caveat, they have to be shootable.
Recently he acquired a Springfield Trapdoor (forget the year/model) in 50-70. He bought cases, bullets, dies, compression die, punch, powder (Goex FFg), primers, etc. and turned them over to me for loading. Then he bought a mold for casting bullets.
I've read several threads here and elsewhere on loading for the 50-70 but I haven't found much to decide if he (therefore, me) is headed in the right direction. This rifle will be used to shoot Black Powder loads only, no smokeless.
- The bore has been slugged. First from the breech and up the bore 4 inches. Second from the muzzle and down 4 inches. Third all the way through. It was a surprisingly consistent 0.511 inch.
- Nope, I don't know the twist rate. He was supposed to do this but I haven't heard from him.
- The bought bullets are horrible - rough, wrinkled, etc. They are 1.032 inches long, vary in width along the seam axis versus 90° from the axis but are nominally 0.515 inch. Couldn't find a sizer. They weigh (average of 10) 469.5 grains (lube removed). Are lubed with something red that doesn't feel like it's going to work for black powder. Have a BHN of 14 (Saeco tester) so were probably cast of Lyman #2.
- The mold is the Lyman 515139. This will throw a bullet 0.725 inch long, nominally 0.515 inch in diameter (they will be used 'as cast'), weighing 340 grains (although I read one place that it's 350 grains). They will be lubed with SPG. I'm thinking of casting with 30:1 to keep the bullet soft and able to obdurate easily. Noted that a 0.515 bullet up a 0.511 bore isn't going to need to obdurate so I may cast 20:1 or harder. I know that too soft or too hard can be as bad as too small in creating leading.
I loaded some bought bullets with 70 grains FFg drop-tubed 36 inches and a 0.0625 card wad. I had to compress the powder nearly 1/3 inch to get an O.A.L of 2.600 inches. A newspaper disk was put over the card wad. He has not had the opportunity to shoot these yet, so results are unknown.
When I looked at the mold I thought "Durn1, that's a small bullet." I definitely won't have to compress the powder as much. I like something between 0.20 and 0.25 inch. But I'm wondering if there's enough bearing surface for good accuracy2. When it decides to stop raining for a while I'll cast some bullets.
So I'd like to hear ideas from and experiences of others with the 50-70, especially with bullets lighter than the traditional government load.
1 Yea, right - that's what I said.
2 I'm remember my experiences with my 45-70 which wouldn't shoot worth a hoot until I got to a 405 grain bullet.