The stray:
I'm thinking an NOE 350gr RD mold but not sure what powder. I don't need to run full power with the crescent butt plate but don't want the high pressure of using trial boss to take up the case volume. Has anyone reinvented the wheel on this or should I still be going with IMR4895 and 5744?
I would love to take the problem of figuring out a load, off your hands. She is really a beauty. I'm green with envy.
Seriously, I'd love to give you some suggestions, but I've never loaded for 45-90. However, there are several very knowledgeable folks here who have and I'll leave it to them to steer you in the right direction.
If that crescent butt plate gives you any problems, I would be happy to relieve you of this difficulty. I happen to like the crescent butt plates.
That rifle is sweeter looking than a new born puppy.
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Envious! Jealous! Did I mention Envious and Jealous?
For me personally, the only thing in the world better, would be in 50-110! That's just me.
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Light fun loads are:
40 grains of 3031 and 300 or 350 grain boolit
30 grains of 5744 and 300 or 350 grain boolit
This is an Express Round (light bullet)
Mike
Last edited by skeettx; 06-17-2015 at 01:53 PM.
5744 is hard to beat, the only other powder I've used in a lot of a 45-90 was IMR 4198. I haven't loaded for 45-90 in about 10 years so it'd take a while to find my old load data. I know that if you favor a compressed load you want to look at Varget.
Yeah, it's an express rifle more so than the cartridge. The only reference I have is the lyman cast bullet handbook. They start with a 457124 at 385 grains. 350 is as heavy as I'll be going.Originally Posted by skeettx
Well, well. It seems Ole Smokeywolf dun fell in love with another mans girl!
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A model '86? crescent butt plate? octagon barrel? in 45-90? You're dog-gone right. If there was an emoticon of a mouth with a string of drool leaking out one corner, that would be me.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms *shall not be infringed*.
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
- Thomas Jefferson
"While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny."
- Rev. Nicholas Collin, Fayetteville Gazette (N.C.), October 12, 1789
I mentioned my dad is the one who brought it home right? Hopefully it'll be many years before it comes into my hands along with the 86 in 33 WCF. Until that day I'll have you mind your manners talking about my sister like that.
Not to worry theleo, I have a couple of your sister's sisters over here; one in 40-65. A deluxe with XX wood, pistol grip, color cased receiver, single set trigger. She's a beaut, but not a 45-90.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms *shall not be infringed*.
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
- Thomas Jefferson
"While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny."
- Rev. Nicholas Collin, Fayetteville Gazette (N.C.), October 12, 1789
I feed my 45-90 1 1/2Fg or FFg, still trying to decide between Swiss and KIK. IMHO case is too big for smokeless powder.
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Some of my favorite recipes start out with a handful of depleted counterbalance devices.
I definitely understand what you're saying, I'm just not set up to reload with black powder and have very little experience with it in general. I'm fairly new to casting and like to make reloading one new discipline at a time.
Sounds purdy. Honestly the only lever guns I really luster for is a pair of 32-20 model 92's my great grandfather handed down to my dad. Not pristine by any means but one is a trapper model and the other a saddle ring carbine. I don't this 86 or any other firearms leaving the family in my lifetime, and there's plenty of time for me to enjoy them at the ripe age of 29.
poor guy!
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Rick C.
Good Lord willing, you'll have kids to pass those irreplaceable family heirlooms down to.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms *shall not be infringed*.
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
- Thomas Jefferson
"While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny."
- Rev. Nicholas Collin, Fayetteville Gazette (N.C.), October 12, 1789
What and hell is it?? Model and caliber to make sense in this post
I'ts all in the pictures...
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Winchester 1886 in 45-90 with octagon barrel and crescent butt.
Geezer, thanks for asking
Mike
NRA Benefactor 2004USAF RET 1971-95
Skeet: Those loads look pretty reasonable, do you know where a kid like me could get his hands on published data for 45-90 with bullets 350 grains and under? It seems to be a challenging task.
The first edition (1958) of the Lyman Handbook of Cast Bullets is available in a large format reprint from Cornell Pubs:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Handbook-of-...-/290893129399
There's data for the 45-90, 405 WCF, 33 WCF, all that cool stuff.
Snooky Williamson's "The Winchester Lever Legacy" has a lot of modern data worked up in original Winchester lever guns, seeking to reproduce the old high velocity performance.
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