i was told here once that any dumb a----- can smash lead into a good bullet so thought i would tell anyone interested that this dumb a--- is doing just that. i aquired a as new ruger old army. then i bought a R and D .45 long colt cylinder for it. it fit perfectly. i have lots of swageing dies i use for paper patched bullet and i have a .451 swageing die. i have over 400 .445 round balls left from a roundball muzzle loader i just sold recently. today i set it up with a deep cupped base base punch and a true very short round nose nose punch. i dropped one of those .445 roundballs in it and out come the most perfect 45 long colt bullet ive seen. the lip on the cupped base is stout it has a 1/4 inch bearing surface. and a short true round nose. i also have a wad cutter for the 45 so i punched out of 1/8 inch cardboad a couple hundred wads. my friend has some 45 long colt brass and we loaded up the case with blackhorn 209 powder the wad and then this bullet. roll crimped it tight and man does it shoot. it may be too simple for here but it is swageing and it is cheap and man do they shoot. one can swage more than copper coated bullets. their is no leading as the stiff tight wad prevents that. i also wage for a couple 45 rifles and a 50 rifle and paperpatch those bullets. i love my swageing equipment and am sure glad that over the years i got what i got.