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View Poll Results: Which Would you pick the Rossi 45 Colt or .454 Casull?

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  • Rossi .454 Casull

    98 48.76%
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    Well my 44Mag Rossi with a 20" barrel was absolutely hurtful with that steel curved butt plate. I can't think of a rifle that was more unpleasant to shoot with factory or factory equivalent loads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertbank View Post
    Well my 44Mag Rossi with a 20" barrel was absolutely hurtful with that steel curved butt plate. I can't think of a rifle that was more unpleasant to shoot with factory or factory equivalent loads.

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    I have a H&R Buffalo Classic in 45-70 with 32" barrel. It came with a curved butt plate. I made a curved to flat spacer out of some delrin and then put one of those slip on recoil pads on it. Makes it much more pleasant to shoot. Not very attractive though. Need to order myself one of those leather slip on recoil pads.

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    I had both. The .454 handles COL .10 inch longer as that is the SAAMI limit for that cartridge. It will accept 45 Colt cartridges so reloaders could probably load their 45 Colt .10 inch longer. That would increase case capacity by about 4 grains of water or 9 %. I have had my right shoulder operated on to eliminate bone spurs, etc.. Don't want to do it again. The 45 Colt with +p loads is more than enough for me from now on and even then I now have a thick, soft, shotgun style recoil pad.

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    I've got a rossi ranchand in 45 colt.but it will also shoot the 454 casull

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel.w View Post
    I've got a rossi ranchand in 45 colt.but it will also shoot the 454 casull
    Wow, I bet that is a handful with a ranchand shooting 454.
    Did you have the chamber reamed for the longer cartridge or did it come from rossi that way?
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    Besides the punishing recoil, Rossi didn't offer .454 Casull in the 24" octagonal rifle that I wanted. I hear y'all about the curved buttplate, but I love the classic look of it so much I just deal with it, or use a recoil pad on my shoulder. But my .45 Colt loads aren't that bad.
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    Besides a M92 in 45 Colt and 454 I also have a Winchester 94 45 Colt. The M94 has the cartridge stop ground back so that it will take a 1.8 inch LOA cartridge. The increased usable case volume is greater than the 454 so that at 45 Colt +P pressures it can pretty much duplicate the 454 velocities. It still feeds interchangeably 45 Colt regular loads and 1.8 LOA loads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runfiverun View Post
    I thought I wanted a 454 casull but ended up with 3 in 45 colt.
    I figured if I really needed more than the 45 colt I needed a bunch more and just bought a 45/70,


    I can't hit a deer with 100% reliability past 150yds or so with open sights anyway, but that extra energy is great if you need to really plow a boolit into the dirt.
    Decisions, decisions. There's something to be said for the portability of the lightweight '92 in .454 Casull over the beefier .45-70 in an '86 or '71.

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    I have the 92 in 45 Colt. I wanted the 454 initially but they were unavailable at the time and being impatient didn't want to wait. Good thing about the 454, as has already been mentioned, is it's ability to also shoot 45 Colt. Say what you will about Rossi, my M92 has been nothing but rock solid. Spends its time at the farm and has accounted for numerous critters.

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    Like others said, don't necessarily have to magnum it, but it's there if you need it.

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    I'm with those who recognize the beefiness of the .454, but also recognize that you don't always need to go with full-house loads. It has minor structural improvements the .45 Colt version doesn't have, and you can always download .454 loads.

    I'm kind of interested in the .480 Ruger M92s though. Unfortunately they seem to be pretty rare.

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    .480 Ruger M92???? Ouch!
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    45 Colt hands down.

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    I bid on one in .454 at an estate sale and won. After buying 150 .454 cases from Starline and shooting a few, I mostly just shoot .45 Colt anymore. Nice to know that the ability is there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Four Fingers of Death View Post
    .480 Ruger M92???? Ouch!
    No kidding! As an indestructible young man, I loaded my 44-40 Rossi with 200gr jacketed loads to 2000fps- straight out of the Lyman 45th ( back of the book in "obsolete cartridges").....
    On the third shot the magazine tube lurched forward from recoil.

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    ive never had a 454 but the Rossi 92 in 45 colt is a gem. only one mold and load needed. mp 454640 lube sized to .454 with 20 or 21 grains of 4227. no need to even try anything else in it.

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    I have to ask, since I have never seen or really been looking for a 454 Rossi, how does the action lock up? Does it have the dual locking bars like a 94 Winchester? It has to be pretty unique to handle a 60K psi round like a 454. I know that 1894 Marlins are pretty strong but they never made a 454 to my knowledge.
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    Attachment 299704I voted 454, since I just bought one.
    But I already had win. 92 in 45 coltAttachment 299703

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    Mine is a Puma model 92, and you can read more about it here:

    https://www.gunblast.com/Paco_Legacy_454.htm
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    Mine is also a Puma Imported by LSI Reno Nevada, has the bolt safety.

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