.41 Magnum / 41 Special Load Data Center

[ddixie884]

Unique love it or hate it, it is hard to beat it........

[ranchman]

Any of you guys ever load 210 a-frames in your specials? I know they ain't cast, but I picked up a few & am debating how to approach those. Pearce has some data on 'em, but curious if anyone (here) has run them, & if so, how fast?

[dangitgriff]

What is an A-frame bullet? Is that like a half-jacket?

[Davy Sprocket]

What is an A-frame bullet? Is that like a half-jacket?

It's Swift's version of the Nosler Partition.

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[RJM52]

Problem may be pushing them fast enough with a Special to make them work... They are designed as a hunting bullet and I would want all the velocity possible to get them to expand. Unlike Nosler bullets, Swift A-Frames are bonded so the lead holds onto the jacket during expansion. I would like an impact velocity of at least 1200 fps to fully expand the nose area of the bullet...

[RJM52]

Finally got an accurate letter from the S&W Historical Society on a 657-2 Hunter I have had for a long time...

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-rev...ly-solved.html

[RJM52]

Finally got the opportunity to chrono the 255 grain .41 Special loads that I've been using in the custom singles actions.

Lee GroupBuy mold: 255 Keith style
7.0 grains of Unique
Winchester LP Primer
Clements Custom USFA 5.5" Shooting Master....1036 fps/35 ES
JRH Custom Uberti Cattleman 4.75".................1038 fps/43 ES

Excellent accuracy, moderate recoil and right where I wanted to be velocity wise...

[ranchman]

Finally got the opportunity to chrono the 255 grain .41 Special loads that I've been using in the custom singles actions.

Lee GroupBuy mold: 255 Keith style
7.0 grains of Unique
Winchester LP Primer
Clements Custom USFA 5.5" Shooting Master....1036 fps/35 ES
JRH Custom Uberti Cattleman 4.75".................1038 fps/43 ES

Excellent accuracy, moderate recoil and right where I wanted to be velocity wise...

7.3gr Unique and my NOE-255 WFN chronographs 970fps, with superb accuracy. Bit shorter shank below the crimp groove on the NOE-WFN leaves more case-capacity and allows higher top ends, for anyone looking for such performance at lowest possible chamber-pressure

Just something to note between same weight bullets and the performance & pressure level variances that different loaders may be interested in considering when picking these bullets for different applications.

[ddixie884]

Cool info, guys........

[RJM52]

Couple of interesting articles I just came across...

Keith's .41 Magnum Blackhawk...saw this gun while in Boise in 2013 and 14...

https://www.handloadermagazine.com/e...hawk-41-magnum


Good article on the factory .41s currently available...I know of several more...

https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...mag-cartridge/

[dangitgriff]

Wow, thanks!

[Nick Adams]

Unique love it or hate it, it is hard to beat it.

Agree.

Before the Corvid tidal swept through, I spent about a week loading up 265gn WFNGC boolits, about 200 rounds worth, over 5gns of Unique.

It's a mild load that hits to POA in my fixed 'notch' Mod. 58 - about the same spot as the 210gn 'Police Load,' but with the impactive 'thawaaak!' of a heavier bullet.

[RJM52]

That sounds like an interesting load Nick... I was just thinking about making up some heavy/slow rounds also... Will have to try 5.0 and see what happens. Have you ever clocked it?

[Nick Adams]

That sounds like an interesting load Nick... I was just thinking about making up some heavy/slow rounds also... Will have to try 5.0 and see what happens. Have you ever clocked it?

Nope. No chronograph.

[RJM52]

Found something on GunBroker that I always had an interest in but very seldom seen...an Intercontinental Arms Super Dakota in .41 Magnum with a 7.5" barrel.

This is a thread I did over on the SA Forums:
https://singleactions.proboards.com/.../wanted?page=1

The posts by Lee Martin are really great...

Bob

[ko41]

Found something on GunBroker that I always had an interest in but very seldom seen...an Intercontinental Arms Super Dakota in .41 Magnum with a 7.5" barrel.

This is a thread I did over on the SA Forums:
https://singleactions.proboards.com/.../wanted?page=1

The posts by Lee Martin are really great...

Bob

I have a shorter barrel one, it makes a nice companion piece for my 1873.





KO

[RJM52]

I forgot you had that rifle ko....that is a beauty... Could you please tell us what it started off as and how it became a .41....

Don't see the Super Dakota around much at all... I wonder how many years it was marketed in the US...

Bob

[ko41]

It started as a 44 Special. I forgot who did the conversion, but the linkage was changed along with the custom barrel. I found it browsing Gunbroker.
The gentleman that I bought it from, used it for CAS, but preferred using his custom 1866 .41 so he had the 1873 for sale.
I restrict its diet to .41 Special (as pictured above) or 8gr Unique with Lyman 220gr SWC in Magnum cases.

According to this http://sackpeterson.com/models/dakota.html the Super Dakota was only offered from about 1965-1970.

KO

[RJM52]

Beautiful gun...

Sure would be nice to know who the smith was and if he was still in business....

[onelight]

7.3gr Unique and my NOE-255 WFN chronographs 970fps, with superb accuracy. Bit shorter shank below the crimp groove on the NOE-WFN leaves more case-capacity and allows higher top ends, for anyone looking for such performance at lowest possible chamber-pressure

Just something to note between same weight bullets and the performance & pressure level variances that different loaders may be interested in considering when picking these bullets for different applications.

That looks like an excellent all round load. Good information