Occasionally I’ll see one on VA Guntrader and they do command a good price. I’ve had my 6” M57 no dash since I bought it used in 1980, and managed to pick up a pretty nice matching 4” a few years ago for $700.00. I don’t shoot them a lot anymore and when I do it’s medium plinking loads with about the same recoil as a stout .357, the heavy hitters not too often and when I do a couple cylinders is enough for me anymore.
"I don’t shoot them a lot anymore and when I do it’s medium plinking loads with about the same recoil as a stout .357, the heavy hitters not too often and when I do a couple cylinders is enough for me anymore."...got that right...funny isn't...the older we get the smarter we get...
Was out shooting the two 58's I have left this morning...
8.0 grains of Unique behind a 210 Berry's plated...950 fps from a 4"..
9.0 grains of Unique behind a 214 MP Keith HP...1100 fps from a 4"..
6.0 grains of Unique behind a 190 MP WC-HP...not sure how fast at this point but with a HP you could drink shots out of how fast you have to be going to be effective...
Bob
My medium load is 8.0 to 8.4gr of Green Dot with any 210-220gr bullet.
"Federal and Winchester will be releasing their pistol bullets as components. Not any cast in .41 but the 175gr Silvertip"
Good news if true...gotta hope...that 170 grainer would make a formidable CC load, and hell on varmints too, I'd expect. The old 170 gr Sierra was a sub-1" grouper at 25 yds back when I had the eyes to fine tune sight alignment...that was in a 6" bbl'd Smith M57. Wonder who supplies Federal's JHPs, or do they make their own? Best Regards Rod
(Pic below of my 6-1/2" Flat Top with some home made Rosewood stocks)
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Rod
I loved the old 170 Sierra at Lyman book maximum levels on my first two Ruger 3 screw .41s in the mid 1970s. I hit a prairie dog at 130 paces from the 4-5/8” with one and it still blew a 3” hole through it at that distance and sent the varmint airborne. I never tried them on deer but they would drop a coyote or feral dog like lightning. I didn’t have a chrono way back then but you could easily tell they were booking along! Thanks for kicking up memories for me, Rod! My best friend had a 8-3/8” m57 that was elegant, but I liked my Rugers because I didn’t worry about their finish.
Took one deer and and a bunch of ground hogs with the 170 and they did well... I am sure they still will
I have a Redhawk, a Model 57 and a 657. I have shot nothing but cast from them but will buy and try some of these.
"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion."
- Albert Camus -
26.0 grains of H110 with the Sierra 170 will run in the low 1600s out of a 6.5" Blackhawk... almost 2100 out of a 20" Marlin lever gun... It's Gary Reeder's favorite jacketed handgun bullet for deer and has even taken cow elk with it... It is a lot tougher bullet than it looks.
Bob, you did good gettin this thread started and made a sticky........
Thank No 1...he is the one who made it a sticky....
Just thought I would post a pic of the 41's I am casting most often...
L-R, Lyman 410610, Saeco 412, Lyman 41032, Saeco 411 (favorite), LBT 230gr OWC
Nice Matt...I really like the granite gray LBT!!
...and what are you shooting them out of?
Just home from the range today and got terrific accuracy from GT's 228 gr SWC loaded over 8.5 gr of Unique with WLP primer seated over the front driving band to 1.58" OAL. Quite a long nose on this bullet, but no problem with the deeper seating. Ten round group at 15 yards rested was 1.3 inches.
Well one nice thing about having a cult cartridge... Just checked the Berry's Mfg. and Speer Bullets sites and and both have 210 grain bullets available for immediate shipping...
I know you are right...........
I just tried 13.0 gr of N105 under the Nosler 210 JHP in my 8-3/8" model 57, and shot the smallest 10-shot group I can remember: one ragged hole you could cover with a quarter at 10 yards, rested. No chrono, but should be doing over 1300 fps with WOW accuracy. I think I found a new hunting load!
Multiple 657's and a Marlin 1894. I tend to shoot either 2400 pooch loads or full on magnums. I mainly shoot a 5.5" half underlug for deer hunting with either the LBT of the hollow point. I do have Little Thumper... a 3"657 Horton that is so much fun...Originally Posted by RJM52
Shot 14 of the 200 HP this weekend over the chrono to get ready for winter deer season, 1376 fps average with SD of 29. Not great, but shot well. I think the SD is an indication that I need to trim my brass.
Nice... I have one of the 3" 657s with the Combat grips and standard underlug... If you didn't know those are not LH exclusives...there were 5500 of them and were a Stocking Dealer Special in 1986. There are two LH 657s with short barrels in .41. One is the Performance Center Ultimate Defense Revolver with 2 5/8" slab side barrel and the other a -3 3" full underlug. There were only 151 of each made...
Picked up a S&W 57-6 4" last week. Have to say for a newer IL gun it has THE lightest smoothest DA of any S&W I have ever shot or dryfired. It was used and I figured someone had backed off the strain screw or changed out the mainspring for a ribbed competition one but all looked factory original... Took it out and put 36 rounds through it all DA and it popped every cap. The primers all showed healthy hits...
Bob
Yes, technically mine is the 3" full underlug, unflutted cylinder model. I should pull it out and post up a pic.
Wow...NICE... Very rare gun!!
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