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Thread: .41 Magnum / 41 Special Load Data Center

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    .41 Magnum / 41 Special Load Data Center

    For you lovers of the .41, be it Special or Magnum, I would like to start a thread that I hope one day will be a sticky... If we all contribute our own experiences and articles/posts that we find on line I hope to build a library that any new .41 shooter can come to for a good base of information.

    Anything related to the .41 is welcome:
    Pictures of cast boolits and molds
    Personal load data with chronograph results
    Pictures of guns
    Pictures of range sessions or hunts
    Posts on other boards dealing with .41s
    Online articles dealing with .41s
    Loading data found online

    So to start here are a few...

    I started this thread over on the S&W Forums for the .41s 50th Anniversary

    http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-rev...41-magnum.html

    http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-rev...l-58-club.html

    http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/41magnum.htm

    http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/41heavy.htm

    http://the41magnumsociety.blogspot.com/

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=599046

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.41_Remington_Magnum

    http://www.realguns.com/articles/302.htm

    http://www.ballistics101.com/41_magnum.php

    http://ammoseek.com/ammo/41-remington-magnum

    http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...423/all-41-mag

    http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-RH45ACP.htm

    https://gunsmagazine.com/hail-the-41-magnum/

    http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...mag-cartridge/

    http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/data/NOE/PDF/40/

    http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt41spec.htm

    http://buffalobore.net/HandloaderFeb2003.pdf

    http://singleactions.proboards.com/t...41-mag-finally

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...95#post3796895

    http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloadi...-vs-44mag.html

    So here is a beginning that I hope will have no end...please contribute what you can....

    Bob
    Last edited by RJM52; 05-09-2017 at 07:57 AM.

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    Some load tests from yesterday:
    Guns used:
    Freedom Arms 83 6"
    S&W 657 4"


    Accurate Mold 41-250F/8.0 Unique
    FA: 1075
    S&W: 1020


    Accurate Mold 41-250F/22.0 H110
    FA: 1430


    Accurate Mold 41-250L/22.0 H110
    FA: 1415
    S&W: 1320


    Accurate 41-215V/8.0 Unique
    FA: 1110
    S&W: 1000


    Accurate Mold 41-215V/14.0 Blue Dot
    FA: 1200


    Lyman 210 RFP/12.0 Blue Dot
    FA: 1250
    S&W: 1130



    Accurate Mold 41-250A/8.0 Unique
    FA: 1040


    Accurate Mold 41-250A/12.0 Blue Dot
    FA: 1150
    S&W: 985


    MP Molds 180 RFP/14.0 Blue Dot
    FA: 1425


    MP 168 HP/14.0 Blue Dot
    S&W: 1385


    MP Molds 212 Keith PentaPoint/15.0 2400
    S&W: 1130

    Accurate 41-215V, 41-250F and 41-250L



    41-215V after water test...

    Last edited by RJM52; 11-12-2015 at 10:06 AM.

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    Thanks for starting this. I am looking to geta 41 Special and more info is great while I wait! By the By is there a postable copy of Rocky Raab's article on the 41 special?
    “You don’t practice until you get it right. You practice until you can’t get it wrong.” Jason Elam, All-Pro kicker, Denver Broncos

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    I have searched everything and the only major one I come up with is Taffin's... I see references to Raab's article but nothing is coming up...

    http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt41spec.htm
    Last edited by RJM52; 04-25-2015 at 10:02 AM.

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    Yes, that's been my luck. I saved lots of his articles but was not interested in the 41 at the time. stoopid on my part, shoulda known I would get interested
    “You don’t practice until you get it right. You practice until you can’t get it wrong.” Jason Elam, All-Pro kicker, Denver Broncos

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    he is a member here,, just ask him.
    it's all an educated guess,,,, till the trigger is pulled.

    this opinion brought to you by mister low-tech solution..

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    Hopefully he will see this and post something....

    There are a lot of lookers and not a lot of posters...are .41 Shooters shy??

    Bob

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    I'm a brand new 41 shooter, so I have much more to learn than to offer, but I keep a close eye on this thread!

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    I have some 41 'stuff' to post. I'll have to put it together, may take a while.
    I have liked the 41 since I got one...so much so, that recently, when I decided to thin my collection (eliminate some calibers), I made the decision to sell all my 44 stuff and favor keeping the few 41's I have...mostly because of a Marlin 1894s.

    The 41 can be a challenge.
    Finding a full Wad cutter mold is tough, I had to have Accurate make one for me. Also, I'm working through getting a GC that fits my 255gr Ranch Dog mold. If it weren't for some of the vendors here, I wouldn't stay with the 41.

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    I got my note book out will post some things

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    My favorite plinking load is 5 grains of Tightgroup under my 410640 MP or any 210-230 grain SWC using 41 mag brass. Very clean and accurate in my 6" smith.
    I am working up a magnum load now using VV N105. Accuracy is excellent but the barrell is a little dirty for VV. I will load up the ladder closer to max and give them a try. If past experience repeats its self these hotter loads will raise the pressure enough to get a clean burn. I gave up on trying to find VV N110.

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    .41 magnum/special data center

    I'm at work, but will break out the notebook when I can. I haven't casted any boolits "yet". However, I have loaded thousands of rounds. I'll share my data.

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    Here's mine!

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    Before they banned pistols in the UK I had a S&W M57 with an 8 3/8" barrel, nickel plated and a S&W M657 with a 4" barrel. It was my favourite magnum calibre. After the ban I had this built. It is an Armalon. It is built on an Enfield action. It uses Desert Eagle magazines. The action is shortened relative to the length of cartridge (I also have one in .45 ACP and .30 Carbine) and it is cock on opening with a match trigger. It is the only one that was built in .41 Magnum.

    Simon.

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    Simon,i really like the look of that rifle.

    I hope it shoot well.

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    Black powder .41.
    Percussion 1858 Remington.
    Penetration in gelled water soaked paper.


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    That rifle is the neatest thing I've ever seen. I want one.

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    Moulds owned for the .41:

    MP Molds 410258 215 grain Keith HP 4 cavity
    MP Molds 411640 175 grain HP 4 cavity
    MP Molds 413640 210 grain HP 4 cavity

    NEI 411 300 300 grain SSK GC 2 cavity

    Saeco #414 175 grain TC 4 cavity
    Saeco #418/#413 210 grain SWC/TC 8 cavity (4 of each style)
    Saeco #410 220 grain FN 4 cavity

    Lyman 41028 212 grain FN 1 cavity (one of my favourites)
    Lyman 410032 210 grain SWC 2 cavity
    Lyman 410610 215 grain SWC GC 2 cavity
    Lyman 410459 220 grain Keith 2 cavity

    RCBS 41-210-SWC 2 cavity (2 different versions of this mould)

    I really like the .41 magnum!!

    Now that I have the carbine I am limited to bullet lengths that will fit in the Desert Eagle mags which means I cannot always crimp in the crimp groove. Other than the Lyman 41028 which has always been a favourite, my newest .41 mould is the MP Molds 411640 which is absolutely ideal.

    Simon.

    PS. I forgot my prized possession a Hensley and Gibbs #256 210 SWC 8 cavity
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    We have an open order for the .41 Special brass, as soon as we get enough on backorder we'll have a full run made by starline, but they need a min order of 100K in order to do it.
    Ron Reed
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    info@reedsammo.com

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    I've always wanted a .41 mag & a .30 carbine in Ruger Blackhawks, but alas, no $.... =8^(

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