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Thread: Laws on Selling Items to Canucks

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    Over taxed and under serviced is the name of the game in Canada.
    Very few places in the gun world here give anyone a deal, the majority won't treat you with respect even when you do deal with them.

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    What one has to accept is that all of these new cross border regulations have little to do with protecting their country's security & people, but more with revenue raising for their respective Government tax coffers.

    Its the new world.............tax anything they can get away with.


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    The U.S. has the stupidest laws in on the planet. Stop imports and exports but invite muslims to come here and go to school on the Americans tax dollars and give them grants to open businesses without paying taxes. They want to ban our guns all while giving jets,tanks and millions of tax payer's dollars to the muslim brotherhood that want to kill us. All the new laws since 911 do nothing to protect anyone in this country it was designed to regulate our freedom as they see fit.

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    It appears these guys have figured out how to do it by way of having a US division set up to do the exports;
    http://www.irunguns.ca/import-process.php

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    There are a few companies that offer this service up here. PITA really. The only folks Obama and his dream team hurt are the US retailers and manufacturers.

    One can only hope the Republicans get rid of the right wing wackos and put up some candidates middle of the road types can vote for. If not I am afraid we will just see another Democrat of office. Hillary per chance.

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    One can only hope the Republicans get rid of the right wing wackos and put up some candidates middle of the road types can vote for.
    Gee, thanks.

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    Sorry but my sense is the Republicans are doing just that. We can only hope.

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    Not to get political, but if the last two Republican candidates weren't "moderate" enough, we're in trouble. It's all those dastardly conservative's fault. Those "wacko right-wingers" as some so lovingly refer to us.

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    Nope but it is the folks in Congress that need a major reality check. It is they who send the message to the voters for the Republicans. The last two Republican presidential candidates were nothing more than cannon fodder for the Demos. Some of the Congress types still think the world is flat and about 8,000 years old. Tuff anchor for the Presidential hopefuls to drag around.

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    Again, nice to know what you think of some of us. Now you're throwing darts at creationists.

    One person's crazy wacko idea is another's reasonable perspective, and personally I try to avoid tossing incendiary barbs at other folk's sincerely held beliefs (even if I think they are wacky), especially outside the off-topic section.

    I regret my first post in this thread, contributing to thread drift and out-of-place politics. I guess I've just had a rough week and expected different on this forum. I apologize for that and will not be offended if you use your magical moderator powers to make this little exchange go away.

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    Being from canada, the law states that a lot of items are good to go, and we have no problem bringing them home. I.e, several thousand rounds of loaded ammo per person, or even declared firearms are okay. However, at some of the crossing i frequent, there are US border patrol checkpoints that go over with great detail exactly what the 'non resident aliens' are exporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecz858 View Post
    Being from canada, the law states that a lot of items are good to go, and we have no problem bringing them home. I.e, several thousand rounds of loaded ammo per person, or even declared firearms are okay. However, at some of the crossing i frequent, there are US border patrol checkpoints that go over with great detail exactly what the 'non resident aliens' are exporting.
    Unfortunately you are correct! The Canadian border service agency is following Canadial protocall to a letter, However. It is not our side of the border that you need worry about! It is US state dept. and Homeland Security that will make your EXIT from the US with such items as loaded ammo and componants or many other firearm related items not so pleasant!!! ( so much for "free trade" ??? )

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    He made his statement and left....oh well

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    Yeah Robert, I thought I was on page 1 when I opened the thread and that Canadadex was the original poster..
    Then I finally woke up and saw that I was on pg. 2 and deleted my post..

    A lot of our problems with the present U.S. export restrictions stem from the fact that when they came into being by the US Commerce Dept. they asked Canada if they wanted to be exempt as in the past on export restrictions..
    Rock was justice minister then..
    You see the results..

    Having said that our present gov. hasn't seen fit to revisit those restrictions and ask for an exemption..
    I wish I could remember my source for the above info to add credibility to it, but heck I have to look at my watch several times a day just to see what day it is..





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    You are exactly right that is indeed how it came down and I am sure if Harper asked, the US would remove the restriction. That said Canada has not signed the UN Treaty involving the movement of small arms and Obama has and that Treaty restricts certain items from crossing borders with paper work. I suspect the US Commerce Dept would ignore the Treaty if they were asked for an exemption. We are after all the closest ally of the US and I suspect they regard themselves, as they should, our closest ally. To much mixing of the blood over the years for it to be otherwise.

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    If Obama signed the treaty, did the Senate ratify it? It is just hot air and not law unless the Senate ratifies. (there was an advisory vote that passed rejecting the proposed treaty in September, but Kerry, the Sec. of State was going to sign anyway.)
    There are all sorts of regulations that can be promulgated with the Presidents signature but not a treaty.

    By the way, I agree the rules are BS and accomplish nothing but to inconvenience the law abiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Hodges View Post
    If Obama signed the treaty, did the Senate ratify it? It is just hot air and not law unless the Senate ratifies. (there was an advisory vote that passed rejecting the proposed treaty in September, but Kerry, the Sec. of State was going to sign anyway.)
    There are all sorts of regulations that can be promulgated with the Presidents signature but not a treaty.

    By the way, I agree the rules are BS and accomplish nothing but to inconvenience the law abiding.

    I haven't followed the story. I just saw where Kerry was making a big deal about how the US was making the world safer by signing on with the treaty. Just a bunch of nonsense really. Does Kerry really believe the CIA or some other government agency wouldn't ship arms to whomever if they thought it was in the Americas interest to do so.

    Our problem was we had a Liberal Gov't in power when your Commerce Department drafted the present export rules. Our understanding is Canada was offered an exemption as one wold expect, and a guy by the name of Allan Rock who was our Justice Minister at the time turned the offer down. He was the architect of our stupid gun laws and a confirmed anti gun type.

    To answer your question I have no idea. You might want to ask your Senator. The Treaty is just so much feel good **** and will only hurt small retailers in the US as well as continue to make cross border movement of firearms by honest hunters and shooters more difficult. I just don't see how it would affect the criminal element or even terrorists. Somebody bent on blowing up the twin towers isn't going to be to concerned he can't bring a 4x rifle scope into the country without an import permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiak1 View Post
    Oh there are ways around it. If memory serves me correct (for examplew a scope)
    if anyone mails me a scope from the USA and it makes it to me no problems with customs YOU THE SENDER will get fined and I belive it is suppose to be up to $50,000.00 if US Customs find it being sent then you are in the same boat.
    Me the GUY BUYING is only out the cost of the scope and mailing, no fine.
    At worst probably a note at customs to watch my **** if I should venture down for a visit. Serious Shtuff!!!
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    A word of warning; I crossed the border hundreds of times as a long distance truck driver and often bought shooting items in the US and brought them back. In the last 6 or 7 years I have noticed officers pulling over cars and trucks after paying the bridge toll/after departing US customs, using license plate numbers in their computer obtained by agents at gun shows (they record Canadian plate numbers in the parking lot and also computer records of sale from gun stores) when your license number comes up you are pulled over and asked if you have anything to export. If you answer yes anything not legal for export will be seized, no charges. If you answer no and they find something you are charged and declared persona non grata in the US. Many times I have seen these officers with people pulled over at the border, cars and big rigs. If I attended a gun show in the US I got a cab from the truckstop to the show and back, paying cash for any purchase. No paper trail. I was never stopped.

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    If you live close to a border, just go across and buy whatever you need. Guns, ammo, supplies... doesnt matter.

    Keep in mind:

    Make sure that you have an acceptable license in whatever state you are going in to buy ammo or guns.
    You are allowed to have MAX 5000 bullets.
    Make sure to know the state rules for having ammo and guns in a car for transport. (Canada isn't the problem, its the road cops in the US if they stop you.)

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    I'm minutes from the border. I use Brownells when I can. They have their 'license' to sell to Canadians, and if they're willing to pay the thousands to get it and fill out the BS paperwork, I will support them. Have gotten rem 1100 recoil springs, seals, molds, handles, cleaning jags, rods etc etc.

    Works for me.

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