Reloading EverythingWidenersSnyders JerkyLee Precision
MidSouth Shooters SupplyLoad DataTitan ReloadingRepackbox
Inline Fabrication RotoMetals2
Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Black Powder In Unfired Brass Cartridge...does it cause corrosion?

  1. #1
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    403

    Black Powder In Unfired Brass Cartridge...does it cause corrosion?

    I understand that firing black powder can eventually cause corrosion if the firearm is not cleaned. When brass cases are loaded with black powder does any corrosion occur to unfired brass over time? Say, I load up a box of cartridges with black powder, is there any concern with sitting them on the shelf for an extended period of time?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    294
    No. I have shot ammo that had been loaded for ten years with no problems.

  3. #3
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    586
    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Shooter View Post
    I understand that firing black powder can eventually cause corrosion if the firearm is not cleaned. When brass cases are loaded with black powder does any corrosion occur to unfired brass over time? Say, I load up a box of cartridges with black powder, is there any concern with sitting them on the shelf for an extended period of time?

    Thanks
    black will sit in a metal container for 1000 years and not degrade or react with brass or steel if the temps stay reasonable and the container is sealed. I have a 100 year old powder can with original paper and contents in 4F. it is as potent today as the day it was made. your brass can stay loaded for just as long provided that it is stored under dry cool conditions.

    corrosion occurs after firing because the priming is metallic salt based, and the carbon fouling of the powder is hygroscopic, attracting water. before firing and sealed from atmospheric moisture there is no cause for reaction.
    Last edited by justashooter; 03-11-2015 at 01:56 PM.

  4. #4
    Boolit Master

    SharpsShooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Rainelle, West Virginia
    Posts
    1,913
    The powder itself is not corrosive. The residue released upon burning is corrosive. Ammunition loaded with black powder has a very long shelf life. There are many accounts of cartridges that were one hundred years old or older that fired just as if they had been loaded yesterday.

    SS
    NRA Life Member Since 1981



    "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"-- George Washington

    II Corinthians 4:8-9. We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted but not forsaken, struck down, but not destroyed."

    Psalms 25:2 O my God, I trust in thee: let me not be ashamed, let not mine enemies triumph over me.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  5. #5
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    493
    I'll correct that - the fouling from BP is NOT corrosive - it is hygroscopic (attracts moisture), which will cause corrosion.

  6. #6
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    2,796
    Quote Originally Posted by martinibelgian View Post
    I'll correct that - the fouling from BP is NOT corrosive - it is hygroscopic (attracts moisture), which will cause corrosion.
    that's like saying humidity in the atmosphere is corrosive but the chlorates and any number of other complex chems in BP fouling are not corrosive.

  7. #7
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    170
    I recently was given several 45-70 cases, I believe were new win loaded with a sub maby pyrodex rs. They all were ugly inside so i cleaned them in a wet tumbler and loaded with black, when fired most split vertically close to the base of the original bullet which is now in the neck aera.

  8. #8
    Boolit Master




    wgr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    indiana
    Posts
    1,053
    Quote Originally Posted by fouronesix View Post
    that's like saying humidity in the atmosphere is corrosive but the chlorates and any number of other complex chems in BP fouling are not corrosive.
    just like anything if the mosture is keep out it wo,nt rust.try it burn some black powder on some steel and put it buy the wood stove were it will stay dry.

  9. #9
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    43
    I have had corrosion in the brass case due to the lube on the gg bullet after one year.

    Keep on hav'n fun!
    MikeT

  10. #10
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    1,200
    I too have noticed green corrosion at case mouth with loaded smokeless ammo..some less than 1 year old..I am using Anhydrous lanolin in a beeswax base lube & I wonder if the lanolin is re-hydrating from atmosphere?

  11. #11
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    493
    Quote Originally Posted by fouronesix View Post
    that's like saying humidity in the atmosphere is corrosive but the chlorates and any number of other complex chems in BP fouling are not corrosive.
    Perchlorates and other products will actively cause corrosion without requring humidity, so there the residue itself is corrosive - it doesn't need water to be corrosive.

  12. #12
    Boolit Master

    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    UPSTATE new york
    Posts
    1,741
    no - be mindful of the temperature and the daily temp swings. This can and will work harden the brass a tad. Over long periods of time, you brass may get brittle. keep it out of the sun.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check