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    Back a couple of decades ago, I bought 6 or 7 "toilet wax rings", and that different kind of lube went up in smoke. Now I use parts of it to flux the pot with.
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    I can't find the dextron II or III
    Would valvoline max life full synthetic ATF be a good sub?

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    Actually Dexron II (1970's) and III (1990's) have been superceded by Dexron VI...not sure what happened to IV and V .
    Use whatever ATF that is labled Dexron or General motors compatable ATF . My last bottle was Dexron VI.
    Don't know if synthetic ATF would be a good substitute.... Just stick with what works is my motto .
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    Y da Dexron?

    Hmmm Don't understand the reason for the DEXRON at all....other than for the aliphatics. And even then....Why in the lube?

    Are we looking for stabilizers at hi temp? Why the DEXRON?

    Also need to check the RED TACKY if it has clay. Am unfamiliar with it. Also,,does the Johonson's have clay filler?

    Also got 30 or so wax toilet rings from a demo'd apartment complex. "Semelted' with some STP.... Worked great in my mix.

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    I'm looking to stiffen up my Bens Red a tiny bit. Any suggestions, less sticky I guess. Yes I know Tacky red did it...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nose Dive View Post
    Hmmm Don't understand the reason for the DEXRON at all....other than for the aliphatics. And even then....Why in the lube?

    Are we looking for stabilizers at hi temp? Why the DEXRON?

    Also need to check the RED TACKY if it has clay. Am unfamiliar with it. Also,,does the Johonson's have clay filler?

    Also got 30 or so wax toilet rings from a demo'd apartment complex. "Semelted' with some STP.... Worked great in my mix.

    Thanks... NOSE DIVE

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    If it works don't change it.

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    I would suggest If you guys want to alter the original formula as Ben has made it..... Just post your info in a different thread without the use of the words "Ben's Red" in the title
    Since you are making something totally different then "Ben's Red"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lablover View Post
    I'm looking to stiffen up my Bens Red a tiny bit. Any suggestions, less sticky I guess. Yes I know Tacky red did it...LOL
    Many have reported using 3 to 5% more bees wax in the mix to stiffen it a bit with no ill effects in performance.

    Having said that, i continue to use Ben's Red in it's original formula because i haven't found anything it can't do.
    Most importantly for me i go hunting knowing where my first shot from that cold bbl. is going.

    After using it over 3 years now in about any conditions you would care to hunt or shoot in, it just continues to perform for me.
    I'm a firm believer in "if it works don't change it".

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    I agree with 35 shooter about adding some additional beeswax to stiffen the lube slightly. To locate many of the measuring tools, if not all of them, I recommend looking at a `Salvation Army`or a `Goodwill` store or any other thrift store. As far as toilet bowl `wax rings`, I was a plumber for over 35 years and we had but 1 use for them when not used on a toilet - WE TOSSED THEM!Robert

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    Bol Wax

    Been a plumber for going on 44 years now and there are more than a few uses for bol waxes other than setting stools but haven't found any (uses) in the shooting sports other than fluxing...

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    If you want to mess up Ben's Red, substitute Bowl Wax for Bee's Wax.

    Ben

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    Here's my first attempt and making Ben's Red. I'm a beekeeper, so getting the beeswax was pretty simple



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    Nice. I've made some and pan lube with it with great results.

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    [QUOTE=flyin brian;3885649]Here's my first attempt and making Ben's Red. I'm a beekeeper, so getting the beeswax was pretty simple



    That Ben's Red looks real good !
    Best to you,
    Ben

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    Didn't have any Red N Tacky left, but my usual lube is 50/50 beeswax / moly lithium grease, so I replaced the RNT with the black stuff.
    I know we're not allowed to call deviations from the recipe by the name "Ben's Red", though "Ben's Black" does have a nice ring to it!

    So far all properties seem the same.

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    This is a good thread and very informative. I'm wil have to try this one. When you get done with it, is it kind of like 50/50 or like a lube that would require a little heat with your lube/sizer??

    Roy
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    i made some.. it's softer than candle wax, harder than grease.. etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistler View Post
    Didn't have any Red N Tacky left, but my usual lube is 50/50 beeswax / moly lithium grease, so I replaced the RNT with the black stuff.
    I know we're not allowed to call deviations from the recipe by the name "Ben's Red", though "Ben's Black" does have a nice ring to it!

    So far all properties seem the same.

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    How did the "Ben's Black" perform?

    Why isn't this tutorial a sticky?
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    Good info

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    This is a great thread.
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