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Thread: Bottom pour build, heating advise required

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    Bottom pour build, heating advise required

    I am thinking of building a bottom pour pot and thinking heating it via; a Heat Cartridge close to the pour hole and a wrap around heating element. The pot size will be either 4in by 6 in or 6in by 8in.

    I intend to switch on the cartridge only when the lead has been heated up to temperature so i can avoid the pour hole from 'freezing' up.

    I am stuck with the Wattages required.

    1. How many watts will i need from from the wrap around element?
    2. How many watts will i need from from the cartridge?


    Any help would be great.
    Mozz

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    You can see how I did mine here: http://www.bliksemdonder.com/hobbies...f-all-melters/

    I have never had a spout freeze up so I would not be concerned about adding a cartridge heater if insulation is added to the build.
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    I don't know how we ever shot maximum loads before P/C come along and saved us all. R5R

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    Your pot will hold 30.9 pounds or 92 pounds of pure lead when filled to the top. I'm guessing a well insulated, wrap around element would need to be 1500 or 2500 watts.
    Last edited by 454PB; 02-13-2015 at 12:33 PM. Reason: corrected math error
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    Thank you very much guys.

    Blikseme300 great pictures and pot.

    I will post some pic's once i get it up and runing.

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    And this is in the lever action section because........?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedo66 View Post
    And this is in the lever action section because........?
    169 posts and you're already a mod?

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    Well, bottom pour pots do have a lever on them........
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    Quote Originally Posted by 454PB View Post
    Well, bottom pour pots do have a lever on them........
    Liberalism is the triumph of emotion over intellect, but masquerading as the reverse.

    I don't know how we ever shot maximum loads before P/C come along and saved us all. R5R

    "No mosque in the United States flies an American flag."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedo66 View Post
    And this is in the lever action section because........?
    I wondered the same thing… But its not worth breaking a sweat. The real moderators can move it if they wish.
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    Ooops i should have put it in the Project section...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinchrock View Post
    169 posts and you're already a mod?
    If I was a Mod I would have moved it, not take silly questions.

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    I've got more posts than you and I wondered the same thing. A little gental prodding by members may save the moderators some future problems. I would suggest you soften your response in the spirit of family that makes this site a good place.

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    This reminds me that the whole site is about a hunting sport. I think if the OP chooses to post his inquiry elsewhere, the bullet casting board is far better than the projects one. A lot of people who could help never open that one.

    I think that if the pot is thick and the spout isn't made of ceramic or something, it should heat up well enough to prevent freezing without a special element.

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    I love your handle and spout assembly. I may have to build me one like it.
    Does it have anything to stop it from opening too far and the needle getting out of alignment with the spout?

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    The geometry of the assembly won't let the valve stem move enough for the needle to exit the spout so no need for anything else. It has been my experience that the mass of metal of the spout compared to the Lee units keeps the valve hotter and freezing won't occur. I do prime the spout by dropping a small amount of alloy on the sprue plate before casting the cavities as the small amount of oxidation on the bit of alloy in the lower part of the spout below the needle does create boolits with a slightly lower weight. Probably not important for pistol boolits but for rifle this seems to eliminate the strange fliers if priming is not done.
    Liberalism is the triumph of emotion over intellect, but masquerading as the reverse.

    I don't know how we ever shot maximum loads before P/C come along and saved us all. R5R

    "No mosque in the United States flies an American flag."

    "Dueling should have never been made illegal in this country. It settled lots of issues between folks."- Char-Gar

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check