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Thread: H&R Stub Barrel

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    I epoxied a 16" UZI 9mm barrel inside a aluminum frame hammerless Savage 12 gauge years ago. It worked, was super accurate. But the firing pin was too large and would pierce some primers. This and the 9 # weight made me convert it back to 12 gauge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Can a .45 cal ML barrel be used with a 45-70 chamber to use patched round ball seated inside the case? Maybe a card wad on top and a slight roll crimp? Of course it would be Black powder only. Am I crazy?

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    I'm actually considering doing this with a 50 cal muzzleloader barrel and a 50-70 Govt. reamer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    John Taylor, your 28 gauge rifle sounds similar to one of my dream guns- a Topper rifle in .577 Snider. I'll be watching this!

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    When I made the barrel I made a spare that got used for a 577 Snider .
    Using a muzzle loading barrel might work except the rifling on a round ball barrel would be to deep and have to slow a twist for bullets. Green Mountain has both 45 and 50 caliber cartridge barrels that run a little over $100. Should be no problem going from 12 gauge to 45-70 or 50-70
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    I get your point. For basically the same money the ctg barrel would be better. I was thinking used ml barrel at first.

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    I see a 44-40 blank on GM's site that looks interesting. Would it work on the casehardened Topper action pressure wise?

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    It isn't case hardened, it's ductile iron. The hardening colors are decorative. It would work fine for the 44-40....you might have to do some firing pin work.

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    I'm referring to a Pre NEF H&R Topper 1970's vintage. I have three and when I got my first one in 1972 the catalog said "Color Case Hardened Reciever". The colors are richer than a Ruger Old Vaquero- which had a case hardened "finish". I think Case Hardening was affordable till Doug Turnbull learned how to do it! I'm joking. Thanks for the firing pin tip- it is something to pay attention to.

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    I'm aware of that. The same frame was used on the "Shikari" in .45-70 and .44 mag. It's just a decorative surface treatment.
    Some people try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know why I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved.

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    I'm not arguing with you and am willing to concede to your statement if you provide proof. That said, I have none to support my position except memories of something I read 45 years ago.......
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    I had the same experience with the same gun and instructions, etc. I thought that it was real also until I got a little overzealous while cleaning and found out it wasn't real.
    Check over here:
    http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/108-h-r...re-rifles.html

    These guys will tell you the same thing.
    In any case, they're great shotguns and rifles and I was real sorry to see H&R and NEF quit making them.
    I blame it on Remington.

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    Thanks. My old Toppers colors are so vivid It's unreal. My Topper Jr. 20 gauge kept us a good supply of wild game when I was a kid. It is a shame they died; first as H&R- then NEF. I saw a Stevens single the other day that seems to be of that pattern. Let's hope they resurrect these wonderful guns.

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