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    Expansion Industries

    This company has a powder ETR7 for sale at 16.50 lb. They say it loads everything from 380 thru 45. Anyone know about this company. Wondering myself?

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    Ive looked at their website but im still on the fence. Id also like to hear from any folks using it.

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    It will still be $25 a # by the time you add haz matt and shipping. Here is the link http://www.expansion-industries.com/
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    They relabeled Maxam CSB-1 powder. There has been some discussion on that powder. I have recently seen that there are at least 2 or 3 types of CSB-1 with some adding an M or a P on the end marking it as slightly different in speed. These guys show all three types: https://www.buffalocartridge.com/maxam

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    $85/4lbs shipped or so. About $22/lb give or take. Thats not bad if you need it
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    I thought about ordering some for 9mm loads , but with my tc boolit and seating depth, i dont think i can get the speeds im looking for. Still on the back burner though if i cant find what i really need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    It will still be $25 a # by the time you add haz matt and shipping. Here is the link http://www.expansion-industries.com/
    Mine came to less than $20/lbs shipped and hazzmat to Colorado! I have not found powder for less than $20/lbs in years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texassako View Post
    They relabeled Maxam CSB-1 powder. There has been some discussion on that powder. I have recently seen that there are at least 2 or 3 types of CSB-1 with some adding an M or a P on the end marking it as slightly different in speed. These guys show all three types: https://www.buffalocartridge.com/maxam
    Not different speed but different cut. CSB-1M is a finer cut.
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    Got 8lbs in FedEx limbo, 3rd attempt to deliver now re-scheduled for Monday. The reviews I've seen are mixed. Some like it, some complain about cost and some hate the whole repackage idea. Don't know how good it is but I'll use it in something as for price all the stores around here are at $25-$30 a pound so it was a little cheaper for me. With the powder shortage glad I stockpiled, like a lot of folks I still got powder I got from Jeff in the 80's.
    Hoping for the best hope its clean shooting and great metering. Well I guess I really hope FedEx just gets it here.

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    I've used it for 9mm and 40 cal S&W and it seems to work fine for me.. It was initially quoted as "Use Universal data", but some who have used it in shotguns have noticed in the lower pressure region of shotshells, it is actually closer to International Clays. I have load data worked up with Hi-tech's Lot of CSB-1 on another thread in the powder forum.. I have some of the CSB-1M from hi-tech but I have not yet worked up any data with it.. I've been told that CSB-1M is closer to Titegroup, we shall see when I do my load workups in 9, 38 spl, and 40. I might even do some in 41 magnum.

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    After a week delay at FedEx it was delivered today, soon as we get some global warming I'll get to my work shop and try it.

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    Got 8 lbs on Tuesday and loaded some 38 specials, just have to get to the range. Cost worked out to $20.85/lb. Tim

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    Other forums and people speaking to the (i presume ) owner, Lucas, say its not CSB-1. What I see about CSB-1 suggests using Universal data, but the Expansion Ind. website says ETR7 is more like Titegroup, and other foroum discussions say CSP-1 isn't as clean burning as people using ETR7 say the ETR7 is. Universal and Titegroup are pretty far apart on burn rate charts. I'm not trying to be pedantic, just trying to help folks keep their fingers.
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    Since I posted this thread I have located another site. Buffalo Cartridge Co. Sells this powder in 55 lb drums for 659.95 which works out to about 11.90 a lb. Also an explaination of the powder as to the cut of the powder. Maybe this will help.

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    Guys take a look does this look like the CSB-1 that others are getting?
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    I want a 55gal drum!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9w1911 View Post
    I want a 55gal drum!!!!!!!
    55 POUNDS ... lol

    NOT 55 gal

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    ah tad smaller I was thinking a 55 gal drum

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    I figured a little over $20 with hazmat and shipping on 16 lb. Been a week and have not seen it yet. What has the delivery time been for others?

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    If you talking about ETR-7? I placed the order on Wednesday evening and got shipping notice that Friday from FedEx. Delivery was to be the next Wednesday but FedUp could not find my address on Wed., Thur. and Fri. Add the bad weather we've had and an email or two it was delivered last Friday. Baring FedUp it would have been a week from order to door.

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