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Thread: When did Smith and Wesson model 14 and 15 revolvers get so hard to find?

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    You are killing me. The 4 3/32 is just a tad to short. It must convert out to =>105mm to be legal up here. Get there and you have my attention.

    Nice handguns BTW.

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    The Model 48 was made in 4", 6", and 8-3/8" barrel lengths for the 22 Winchester Rimfire Magnum cartridge, to wind up the Masterpiece revolver line. They were marketed as refined versions of their K-frame service sidearms for field use and target competition, but in NRA 2700-series work these models and Colt's counterparts got replaced by self-loading systems as time went on after WWII.[/QUOTE]

    I bought a Mo. 48 in about 1974, sent it back to the factory and they fitted a 22lr cylindar, target hammer, target trigger & target grips. They also replaced the crane screw with an allen head screw so the cylinders could be changed without damaging the original slotted head screw.

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    A VERY worthwhile modification, Youngman. I'm not enamored enough with the 22 WinMag to chase down a 2nd cylinder for my 6" 617, or to hunt up an M-48.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9.3X62AL View Post
    A VERY worthwhile modification, Youngman. I'm not enamored enough with the 22 WinMag to chase down a 2nd cylinder for my 6" 617, or to hunt up an M-48.
    I'm not sure they would do it now anyway.

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    There was a new-condition M48 (.22 WMR) at a recent Big Reno Show. I hadn't seen one in a long time, so it was a surprise.

    Don't recall the asking price now, but then I wasn't really interested in buying it, either.
    Regards from BruceB in Nevada

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    You asked about the model 14's and 15's. Bought my model 14 K38 at cabela's of all places. Was reduced in price down to $350 and while it won't win any beauty contests cleaned up nice and shoots nicely. The model 15 or combat masterpiece I got at a local gun show some years back. $300 if I remember right. Most of the shooters who have either one aren't turning them loose anytime soon. Couple of the guys at our range swear by them and don't even ask if they are for sale. Frank

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    Given the issues I have had locating a model 15, I can understand them wanting to hang on. I haven't had my K38 long enough to know a lot about it's capabilities yet other than it shoots as well or better than the revolver I had been using. I am looking forward to a long and happy relationship with it.

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    do you plan on casting for it and what mold? I have various .357 molds, but never had one in a full WC or have even loaded with them. I have a few different SWC's , RN's ect. For some reason always wanted to add the WC, and try it.

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    I will most probably never shoot a jacketed round through it. I have molds in WFN, SWC, and full wadcutter to use. I have already fired WFN and SWC through it with promising results.
    I am going to try some wadcutters this weekend.
    I don't currently have any really light loads set up but I think I my need to do that.

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    Other than making nice neat holes in paper with a little less lead & powder; the 158gr SWC loads shoot just as well as wadcutters in my K-38. That K-frame S&W is a work of mechanical art. WC's save a little recoil, lead and powder and do have a real attraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol & Powder View Post
    Other than making nice neat holes in paper with a little less lead & powder; the 158gr SWC loads shoot just as well as wadcutters in my K-38. That K-frame S&W is a work of mechanical art. WC's save a little recoil, lead and powder and do have a real attraction.
    I found I didn't have any wadcutters that weren't loaded already with heavier charges so I loaded some semiwadcutters with light loads of Bullseye. I will try both loads either tomorrow or over the weekend depending on time.

    Leadforbrains---- That is a sweet gun.

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    Perusing the Smith & Wesson website for new revolvers, a number of Classic (their sobriquet) K-frames still are listed in 38 Special. I don't know how close to MSRP they are priced in the Real World, but a good used model will likely run a bit less coin to capture and it will lack the not-so-classic features like Glory Hole, short-cut construction, and MIM parts. Mind you, I've had a case of hungries for a 4" N-frame for some time, and I have considered going to this Dark Side to scratch that itch. But not yet. And other less costly holes in the arsenal beckon, and I nearly always have time to peruse a nice K-frame at a gun shop. One of those aforementioned gaps is a 6" Model 14 At The Right Price. It will happen.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Ah... 4 inch N frames. Here is a 38/44 Heavy Duty and a Model 28. I have some more, but they are 44s and 45s.

    Give in and scratch that itch. You will feel so much better.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    Ah, Charles' Roller Porn. Delightful. My appetite in 4" runs to the 44 or 45 side of the cabinet, but a good-shape 38/44 would always be welcome.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Well I just dropped my 14-6 [see post 4 above] off at FedX to be sent back to S&W to be checked over.It went from being able to keep 10 rounds in the 10 ring at 50 yards to not being able to keep 6 shots on a 2 foot piece of paper at 25 yards.Happen overnight. Have know idea.Just started spitting lead and throwing shots all over the country side.
    S&W sent a shipping label right out so its on its way.Hope they can find out what wrong..........Terry

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    I took the K38 to the range today with some light loaded SWC ans WFN ammo. It shot really well. Easily controlled and accurate.
    For some reason I was shooting better with one hand than with two today. So I just stuck my off hand in my pocket and proceeded to practice in classic target form. By the end of the practice session I was actually doing a good trigger squeeze and didn't know when the gun would fire. If I can continue this well, all I have to do is get steadier at holding.
    I may actually have had a breakthrough today.
    Only a couple of really good groups and I didn't save the targets. Nothing most on this site can't better in any case. I am just glad I am seeing progress.

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    Okay, okay dagnabit. STOP this thread, STOP IT I say, STOP IT, STO.......ooops. Too late.

    A couple hours ago, I stopped at my utmost favorite Reno funshop (yes I said "funshop").

    On a shelf was a..... Model 15-4 from 1981, 4" pinned barrel.

    The previous owner had taken the NEW gun and shipped it off to be Duracoated. The finish is now a lovely matte silver, and is completely unmarred. There's not even a turn line.

    The trigger pulls are good enough that I wonder if some gunsmith has worked on them.

    The revolver is wearing Pachmayr "Presentation" grips, which feel fine but are sadly lacking in pizazz. Fortunately, I have a set of K-frame Goncalo Alves grips from my M19....very nicely colored and grained. They will really spice up the appearance.

    Many years ago, I bought a Safariland left-handed duty holster for the 4" K-frame, in the absolute certainty that I would own such a gun in the future. The brilliant blue on the Model 19 is too nice to use it in this tight-fitting holster, but this new M-15 should do fine in the leather.

    THIS THREAD has lowered my sales resistance to the point that I was a sitting duck for this revolver. Thanks a lot guys (Actually, I MEAN that.... you fellers have led me to water.... and I drank.)

    So, there's another beautiful Smith in my safe. Happy, happy, happy......
    Regards from BruceB in Nevada

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    Congratulations on the new gun. I wonder if anybody else has been seduced by the thread?

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    Hoping to preempt any bidding war,Bruce, I'll offer 349.00 greenspans for your new prize... Onceabull
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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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